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Are there government subsidized Communes?
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:40 pm
Say there’s a 100 unit motel/apartment building for sale.
Find 100 people who want to be “communists”
All unemployed, sign up for section 8, enroll in food stamps and all other government assistance.
Set up cafeteria and school on site.
Commune “volunteers” to be cooks, janitors, gardening, beauty salon, teachers, etc. while they also donate their assistance to the commune’s income.
$60k/month section 8 (minimum)
$20k/month in foodstamps for cafeteria
$50k/month in direct cash benefits (Based in EBR Rate)
School voucher program?
Just seems like “communists” could create a government subsidized “commune”. Is there one or is there something preventing communists from doing so? Non-profit status could also solicit donations and receive grant funding for “eligible based on income programs”.
Single mother commune for those who just want to raise children (in the it takes a village model).
All these poor people on their own, could simply “unionize”.
Find 100 people who want to be “communists”
All unemployed, sign up for section 8, enroll in food stamps and all other government assistance.
Set up cafeteria and school on site.
Commune “volunteers” to be cooks, janitors, gardening, beauty salon, teachers, etc. while they also donate their assistance to the commune’s income.
$60k/month section 8 (minimum)
$20k/month in foodstamps for cafeteria
$50k/month in direct cash benefits (Based in EBR Rate)
School voucher program?
Just seems like “communists” could create a government subsidized “commune”. Is there one or is there something preventing communists from doing so? Non-profit status could also solicit donations and receive grant funding for “eligible based on income programs”.
Single mother commune for those who just want to raise children (in the it takes a village model).
All these poor people on their own, could simply “unionize”.
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:43 pm to Kujo
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Commune “volunteers” to be cooks, janitors, gardening, beauty salon, teachers, etc. while they also donate their assistance to the commune’s income.
Factory-owned towns like Hershey PA used to be pretty close to this but those towns wouldn't have existed without capitalism.
This post was edited on 2/27/22 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:04 pm to stout
Yeah, I guess it would be like those coal mine cities where people were paid in company money to spend at company stores.
Could be a frat/sorority house for over 24 year olds (think you have to be over the age where your parents can claim you) that with no income can get student loans for college but gov asst subsidizes all else.
Any eligibility analysts on TD to say why this can’t work?
Could be a frat/sorority house for over 24 year olds (think you have to be over the age where your parents can claim you) that with no income can get student loans for college but gov asst subsidizes all else.
Any eligibility analysts on TD to say why this can’t work?
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:04 pm to Kujo
There have been many communes in the US. At least 30 that I know of off hand. Ranging from 50 people to a couple thousand. They all followed a socialist doctrine (back in the 1840s). They all failed spectacularly. ALL OF THEM. Some lasted as little as 7 months. A couple lasted a few years, but they all had the same problems:
1) They were unable to survive any catastrophe (fire, flood, etc)
2) The longer they lasted, the more unhappy the people were and began bickering about what made them different
3) They all became financially insolvent (bankrupt) and their only source to get any money back was the sale of the private property that had appreciated in value in most cases. Go figure.
1) They were unable to survive any catastrophe (fire, flood, etc)
2) The longer they lasted, the more unhappy the people were and began bickering about what made them different
3) They all became financially insolvent (bankrupt) and their only source to get any money back was the sale of the private property that had appreciated in value in most cases. Go figure.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:07 pm to Gr8t8s
Do you have a name of one, were they receiving Government Assistance or was it all self funded/labor?
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:10 pm to Kujo
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Do you have a name of one, were they receiving Government Assistance or was it all self funded/labor?
Most of them were self funded. Silkville, Brook Farm, The Fruitlands, Alphadelphia Association , Skaneateles, La Reunion, the North American Phalanx.
There was one in France, not Marx's example commune, but one that followed a Fourierist model. It was government subsidized. It failed as well.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:24 pm to Kujo
There's some shite now called an "intentional community."
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:43 pm to Gr8t8s
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3) They all became financially insolvent (bankrupt) and their only source to get any money back was the sale of the private property that had appreciated in value in most cases. Go figure.
This is a feature of almost every city or town in America. None of them can pay for their own upkeep without increasingly higher amounts of debt. That's why cities and towns have started going bankrupt, some multiple times. The American dream is a brought to you by a debt bubble.
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