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re: America has a father crisis.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:48 pm to VADawg
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:48 pm to VADawg
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No, but you don't have to bust a nut inside the woman every time.
This wasn't nearly as bad 40 year ago. Its a recent phenomenon. People are just less responsible for their own behavior.
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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And suffer far worse outcomes. Thats why poor stay poor.
You think people would learn by now.
You can't unlearn millions of years of evolution and biological imperatives.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:52 pm to PassingThrough
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But not the father? Sterilizing males will help with the problem of unwanted children far more than sterilizing females- ask any farmer...
Him, too
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:57 pm to Slippy
Posted on 5/25/22 at 2:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It is almost like people have no idea how gangs became prominent and wealthy....
Your druglords aren't exactly 80 IQ hoodrats. They're businessmen.
I support supplying market need.
No shite, Sherlock. The point is gangs, mafias, drug lords, religious extremist organizations all developed and continue to thrive in areas and times where the only way to survive is/was to belong to this organization.
If you support supplying market demand no matter what the supply is, then stop moaning about the degradation of society.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:05 pm to GreenRockTiger
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It does not render my statement invalid because we have plenty of evidence to show how government assistance has hurt society
No, it doesn't, because we can just as easily say we have plenty of evidence to to show how government assistance has helped society as well as how it's hurt.
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generally speaking, if something hurts, it doesn’t help.
Something can help and hurt at the same time.
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Have you ever worked in social services?
No, have you?
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:08 pm to PassingThrough
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where the only way to survive is/was to belong to this organization.
Wrong. Which highlights he attitude that keeps the poor, poor.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:09 pm to PassingThrough
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then stop moaning about the degradation of society.
Only a retard would think violence is an acceptable part of market economy.
You appear to be one.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:10 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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how government assistance has helped society as well as how it's hurt
It helped created retail giants like Walmart.
You got that going for you.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:33 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Do you know for a fact that society would be better today if gov't assistance had never been instituted?
yes.
look at the black family structure, neighborhoods and wealth rate of progress before and after the great society.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:39 pm to Masterag
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look at the black family structure, neighborhoods and wealth rate of progress before and after the great society.
There seem to be two black Americas, just like the white folks. I have a hard time associating all black folks with the pathology of the inner city.
Thats why the term "black community" causes me to bristle a bit. Its used for political purposes, but they aren't all of the same mind.
To me, the best example of a welfare trap is the inner city and Appalachia. Classic welfare traps
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:39 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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plenty of evidence to to show how government assistance has helped society
no it hasn't. not only are you robbing from the american taxpayer footing the bill for the benefits, you're robbing the receiver of their purpose in life and you're robbing from churches and other charitable organizations.
literally nothing about government assistance has helped our society.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There seem to be two black Americas, just like the white folks. I have a hard time associating all black folks with the pathology of the inner city.
that's true. the problem is the black people who have done the right things to succeed pander to the other group for fear of being ostracized and rendered a coon or uncle tom, etc.
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Thats why the term "black community" causes me to bristle a bit. Its used for political purposes, but they aren't all of the same mind.
yeah, there is no "black community" outside of the minds of people who think there is, which encompasses more people than it doesn't. i'm not even sure what makes one part of the "black community."
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:48 pm to Slippy
you'd have to get the powers that be to admit there's a problem.
What i'm saying is, it's going to get much much worse.
What i'm saying is, it's going to get much much worse.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:52 pm to Masterag
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i'm not even sure what makes one part of the "black community."
It a good thing. I sure don't want to be tied at the hip to a lot of shite white folks do either.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:57 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Take away the government assistance, and who really suffers, the mother or the child?
The issue is we are addressing the problems after they have already been created by the government.
The government incentivized out-of-wedlock children and absentee fathers. Now that those bastard children have run amok, we can't dial back the original laws that started this problem because "what about the chirrens"
It's a fricking endless loop.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 4:18 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Take away the government assistance, and who really suffers, the mother or the child?
you're acting as though there was never a point in history when there was no government assistance. there was, and people took responsibility.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 4:19 pm to Masterag
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literally nothing about government assistance has helped our society.
I personally know several people who have benefitted greatly from it. One, a Marine, went to medical school, became a doctor and served with the US Marshals.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 4:21 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I personally know several people who have benefitted greatly from it
Then they were on the business side or it was fraud.
Posted on 5/25/22 at 4:26 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Have you ever worked in social services? No, have you?
Yep - food stamps. Fun times. Finished college and went to school to become a librarian
My family works in Medicaid and unemployment.
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