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re: Amazon will suspend cloud services to Parler, which can take the Twitter rival offline
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:45 pm to USMEagles
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:45 pm to USMEagles
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Parler can use another cloud service, buy its own servers, or rent servers from a traditional (i.e. non-cloud) host company.
And the fact they are now not accessible by any mobile device, the number one way (by a massive margin) people consume social media now?
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:48 pm to Centinel
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And the fact they are now not accessible by any mobile device, the number one way (by a massive margin) people consume social media now?
You mean because they got kicked out of the Apple / Google app stores? Yeah, that's a different issue and probably does warrant some legal scrutiny.
That said, I always just use Twitter in the browser (regardless of whether I was on a phone or a laptop or something else). Never felt the need to install an app. I'm not sure the app is really that big a deal.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:48 pm to Centinel
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So do you see an issue with the fact that both Apple and Google deplatformed Parler when they own the entire mobile device app market between the two of them?
are you asking if I think its right that they are heavy handed vs. conservative leaning outlets/plateforms? yeah, I don't think it takes that much to see there seems to be some bias there.... I've said this, too, yesterday in another thread, or something similar anyway... I was pretty surprised when I heard about the Parler thing too, mainly b/c I thought it was very premeditated and presumptuous... very sketchy to "assume" so much, on Amazon's part, but hey, AGAIN, that's Amazon's right as a company and their decision to make... it could come back to bite them in the arse, and it might not... but like I've consistently said, these were two private companies, not the government shutting down a private company, so as far as the bigger issue of the 1st amendment and being "censored", that's not the issue here, therefore, still totally legal...
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they own the entire mobile device app market between the two of them?
sounds like there's a good opportunity for someone on your side to develop a mobile device app market then...
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:49 pm to Centinel
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And the fact they are now not accessible by any mobile device, the number one way (by a massive margin) people consume social media now?
Just create your own Google or Apple man
That might be the market with the most difficult barriers to entry in the country. Amazon and Microsoft couldn't even figure it out.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:51 pm to chRxis
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sounds like there's a good opportunity for someone on your side to develop a mobile device app market then...
And yet not even Microsoft could break their duopoly. Remember the Windows phone?
But ya, Joe Schmoe can just go out and start up a company to take on the stranglehold Apple and Google have on the mobile device market.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:51 pm to USMEagles
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Parler can use another cloud service, buy its own servers, or rent servers from a traditional (i.e. non-cloud) host company. There's no cartel or monopoly here- and that's good.
You are wrong.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:53 pm to USMEagles
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That said, I always just use Twitter in the browser (regardless of whether I was on a phone or a laptop or something else). Never felt the need to install an app. I'm not sure the app is really that big a deal.
You're in the vast minority, like I said in a previous post. Most people consume social media via mobile device.
That's why it's such a big deal that Apple and Google deplatformed Parler. It effectively killed the application, even if they can find another hosting company to take them after Amazon removed them.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:53 pm to chRxis
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sounds like there's a good opportunity for someone on your side to develop a mobile device app market then...
No, that's silly. We have only two app marketplaces, they're very powerful, we need them, and they should be regulated. This is pretty close to the definition of a natural monopoly.
The answer is not to have some conservative person start a conservative phone carrier. That's Tower of Babel shite. Try extending it to our power lines. That's a good thought exercise.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:54 pm to Centinel
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Most people consume social media via mobile device.
Sure they do- but in the browser. You open up a Facebook app to use Facebook, a TD app to use this site, etc.?
Maybe that's some weird Apple thing?
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:56 pm to USMEagles
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Sure they do- but in the browser.
No, there are specific apps that you download from the respective app stores.
Twitter, Instagram, Reddit, etc. all have their own apps. In fact most of them if you try loading them in a browser on a mobile device, you get redirected to download the app.
The vast majority of people consume social media via the respective application's "app" downloaded from the app store. A web browser is never used. It's the whole point for "apps" existing.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:57 pm to fallguy_1978
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A company that would take easily a decade to develop.
bruh, you keep moving the goalposts and crying about it like a spoiled child... don't get mad that conservatives couldn't think ahead of the curve, like the left apparently did....
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Stuff like this is just going to further divide the country and push people further into their political corners.
I agree, which is why I didn't like the pre-emptive ban by Amazon, as I think wasn't particularly warranted, but at the same time, with how big the Capitol thing is, and make no mistake, it is easily one of the darkest days in American history, and putting party aside and being just "American" for a second, you'd have to agree, so I can understand the jump for companies to want to do "something"...
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:59 pm to chRxis
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it is easily one of the darkest days in American history
I didn't agree with it but this isn't even remotely true.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:59 pm to chRxis
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it is easily one of the darkest days in American history
And the rioting, burning, and looting that happened across the country over the past year isn't?
Posted on 1/10/21 at 5:00 pm to Centinel
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The vast majority of people consume social media via the respective application's "app" downloaded from the app store. A web browser is never used. It's the whole point for "apps" existing.
but by your own admission, It's not impossible... I realize and understand it definitely makes it challenging, but not impossible, correct?
Posted on 1/10/21 at 5:04 pm to Centinel
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Twitter, Instagram, Reddit, etc. all have their own apps. In fact most of them if you try loading them in a browser on a mobile device, you get redirected to download the app.
No, Twitter definitely doesn't do that (at least not on Android). I get a banner asking me to download the app sometimes, but it's easy to just dismiss.
Reddit is a tiny bit more heavy-handed. That and the redesign are two reasons I don't use Reddit anymore. (Autistic teenagers took it over anyway.)
I do think the app stores should be regulated. I just don't see why anyone would want or use a Parler app and I don't think it's as widespread as you think.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 5:04 pm to Centinel
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And the rioting, burning, and looting that happened across the country over the past year isn't?
bruh, conflating the issue with a whataboutism doesn't help negate what we all witnessed...
and yes, like I've ALSO stated (check my post history, if you really don't believe me) rioting, looting, etc isn't warranted... wanna protest peacefully, ok, I get it, and I know it's gotta be frustrating to protest peacefully and still be treated as if you aren't but you still can't resort to violence to get your point across... I don't care what letter is beside your name
Posted on 1/10/21 at 5:05 pm to USMEagles
Two competing economies in the same country...where have I seen this before and how did it work out?
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 1/10/21 at 5:11 pm to fallguy_1978
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I didn't agree with it but this isn't even remotely true.
bruh, I actually do like you as a poster... you're funny and pretty entertaining and sometimes informative... so I'm gonna be respectful... you have to stop putting your party above your country... as an American, if you can't admit that seeing your fellow AMERICAN citizens, breaching their own fricking Capitol, causing chaos, calling for members of THEIR Congress, even members of their OWN party, to be put to death, then there truly isn't any hope for you, you are too far gone to actually debate with, as there isn't any care nor sensibility left in you...
and that's a shame, b/c like I said, I actually like you as a poster...
Posted on 1/10/21 at 5:15 pm to chRxis
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as an American, if you can't admit that seeing your fellow AMERICAN citizens, breaching their own fricking Capitol, causing chaos, calling for members of THEIR Congress, even members of their OWN party, to be put to death,
Yes, I saw the same thing play out in multiple cities across the country. But with many more deaths, assaults, looting, and destruction. And then politicians such as our VP-Elect raised funds for bail and lobbied local and state governments to drop the charges. Which most have.
All coordinated on social media. All allowed.
It's not "whataboutism" to point out that people are making a much larger deal about what happened in DC than they are about everything else that's gone on.
Purely based on the ideologies involved.
Posted on 1/10/21 at 5:19 pm to chRxis
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if you can't admit that seeing your fellow AMERICAN citizens, breaching their own fricking Capitol, causing chaos, calling for members of THEIR Congress, even members of their OWN party, to be put to death, then there truly isn't any hope for you, you are too far gone to actually debate with, as there isn't any care nor sensibility left in you
What is the appropriate response to seeing your democratic victories ignored and undermined, for decades? What is the appropriate response to being told "elections have consequences," but then seeing Trump denied the biggest thing he campaigned on despite Republicans controlling the House and Senate?
This is an honest question. I don't have an answer, other than to say that our system 100% has failed and does not warrant our veneration anymore.
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