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re: Alex Jones ordered to pay Sandy Hook parents more than $4M

Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:32 am to
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:32 am to
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A news station giving their name and someone actively seeking out their address, going to their home, getting their numbers to make death threats are not the same.

Addresses are public record. People can look up any persons address that is on the news.

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He’s not being charged. He’s being sued for defamation. If you see my post above, the parents easily met the standard for proving defamation.

I guess everybody on this site who said JFKs murder was a conspiracy, or 911, or uvalde should be charged for defamation too. What a world we live in.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:32 am to
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Sue the school board Trannyism is pushed by individual teachers.


So what exactly are you suing for that meets the following standard of defamation?

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To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and 4) damages, or some harm caused to the reputation of the person or entity who is the subject of the statement.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 10:34 am
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:33 am to
How did alex Jones torture their parents
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:33 am to
All you had to was read the comment I replied to.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:34 am to
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I guess everybody on this site who said JFKs murder was a conspiracy, or 911, or uvalde should be charged for defamation too. What a world we live in.
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I say go after others, use this as precedent. Schools, governments, etc.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:35 am to
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I guess everybody on this site who said JFKs murder was a conspiracy, or 911, or uvalde should be charged for defamation too. What a world we live in.


No. That isn't how defamation works.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
5864 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:35 am to
Should Barry Goldwater have been sued for defamation for alluding to the fact that LBJ helped get JFK killed?
Posted by Jfk Jr
Member since Jul 2022
591 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:35 am to
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I guess everybody on this site who said JFKs murder was a conspiracy, or 911, or uvalde should be charged for defamation too. What a world we live in.



you don't know the definition of defamation.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:37 am to
He met the standard of being sued for defamation:

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To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact;


As he’s now openly admitted, Sandy Hook was 100% real. It was not a hoax with actors. Real people lost real children.

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2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person;


He utilized InfoWars to communicate this lie to a large group of “third person” individuals.

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3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and


Again, as he admitted in court, he knew he was perpetuating a harmful lie and refused to recant. He knew people were trying to harm these parents based on his lie.

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4) damages, or some harm caused to the reputation of the person or entity who is the subject of the statement.


As a result of his perpetuation of the lie, his InfoWars followers and at least one fellow employee made death threats, shot at, and endlessly harassed these parents.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 10:40 am
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
5864 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:38 am to
If somebody makes a thread discussing about 9/11 and it gets millions of views, and people from this site start “harassing” government officials because of it, how is that any different from what Alex Jones did?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:38 am to
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I say go after others, use this as precedent. Schools, governments, etc.


Then explain how you would meet the defamation standard for teachers teaching CRT and “trannyism”.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282536 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:39 am to
Every democrat talking head that pushed Russian Collusion should be sued.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
5864 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:39 am to
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It was not a hoax with actors. Real people lost real children.


You realize both statements can be true right?

People in uvalde lost their kids.
People on 9/11 lost family members.
JFK lost his life.

Doesn’t mean the conspiracy theories about these events are false.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
104101 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:41 am to
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People in uvalde lost their kids. People on 9/11 lost family members. JFK lost his life. Doesn’t mean the conspiracy theories about these events are false.


If there was any truth to Sandy Hook being a hoax, Alex Jones had the opportunity to prove that in court.

He couldn’t. Because it isn’t true.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282536 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:42 am to
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Then explain how you would meet the defamation standard for teachers teaching CRT and “trannyism”.


Telling kids they are "transphobic or racist" for not accepting their looney theories.

This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 10:43 am
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:43 am to

So, Roger believes in fairy tales and knights for Jones. Shocker.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:44 am to
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Every democrat talking head that pushed Russian Collusion should be sued.


Why are you pushing a political angle? We don't know the politics of these parents.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
104101 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:45 am to
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Telling kids they are "transphobic or racist" for not accepting their looney theories.


Ok, so you loosely have #1. Where’s the rest? Where’s your proof of this communication to a third person? Where’s the proof of negligence on behalf of the teacher? And proof of tangible damages?

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To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and 4) damages, or some harm caused to the reputation of the person or entity who is the subject of the statement.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85118 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:45 am to
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You realize both statements can be true right?


well not in the case of Alex Jones and Sandy Hook

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282536 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:45 am to
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Why are you pushing a political angle? We don't know the politics of these parents.



That's stupid and has nothing to do with it.

I don't give a shite about the parents political angle. I care about those who lie, and their political angle.

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