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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:13 pm to
So if they walked up a black student and held a noose in their face, is that a threat?
Posted by tuptiger
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:17 pm to
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So if they walked up a black student and held a noose in their face, is that a threat?


Firstly, a noose is not like a gun.

Secondly, it would depend on whether or not the person said he was going to lynch the person he held the noose in front of.
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:17 pm to
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Damn the other guy got screwed 6 months in prison, which is three with good behavior, but I would take 5 years probation over 3 months in parish prison. So one year is a cake walk, even if supervised. As long as it's not drug court probation should be a breeze


Not in the federal system, he will do 6 months. To be eligible for good behavior, you need to be sentenced to a year and a day or more.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:18 pm to
So it has to be a verbal threat? Holding an item used to execute people isn't enough? What about the noose and throat slitting motion?
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:20 pm to
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Holding an item used to execute people isn't enough?



If anything it's a threat to white people. More whites have died by the noose than any other race.
Posted by tuptiger
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:21 pm to
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So it has to be a verbal threat? Holding an item used to execute people isn't enough? What about the noose and throat slitting motion?


If we're still talking about the perception of force, I think a verbal threat with a noose in hand is sufficient grounds to justify the charge
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:22 pm to
I don't have any data to confirm or deny that, but it is probably true. Either way, in the south it often has racial implications against blacks.

Maybe it shouldn't, but I can't change that.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:22 pm to
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So if they walked up a black student and held a noose in their face, is that a threat?


Can you brandish a noose?
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:23 pm to
So if you don't say anything just point to someone and do a throat slit motion while holding a noose, is that a threat?
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:24 pm to
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If anything it's a threat to white people. More whites have died by the noose than any other race.


Posted by tuptiger
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:28 pm to
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So if you don't say anything just point to someone and do a throat slit motion while holding a noose, is that a threat?


We're really not talking about "threats" per say. We're talking about someone's perception of fear.

I don't think a throat slashing motion with a noose in hand is enough to justify the charge of installing a perception of fear because a noose is unlike other conventional weapons.

If he had a plastic fork, and held that in someone's face, would that be sufficient to claim a perception of fear? It largely depends on the weapon. A noose in not conventionally a weapon. It has racial undertones, which is the root of the charge.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:28 pm to
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his statute has been around a lot longer than Obama.


Yeah the political correctness crap is out of control right now.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:28 pm to
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So if you don't say anything just point to someone and do a throat slit motion while holding a noose, is that a threat?


That's pretty threatening and I get your point.

The entirety of college football team rosters circa 2007 should be in jail for minimum of a few months.

Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:33 pm to
I mean, it's both facetious and true. People have been hanged in Effigee from time immemorial. It's hardly solely racial, although the PC police will paint it as such.

A noose is simply a form of efficient execution. It knows no race
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:35 pm to
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It's hardly solely racial, although the PC police will paint it as such.


In the context of hanging it around a statue for the first black student at a historically segregated university in the Deep South, you bet your arse it's racial.
Posted by adp
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:37 pm to
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of Alpharetta, Ga.
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 4:38 pm
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:38 pm to
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In the context of hanging it around a statue for the first black student at a historically segregated university in the Deep South


That's not the reason for the statute is it? Is it there to protect the piece of mind of black people?

I will whole heartedly support laws based on race.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:40 pm to
Why aren't BLM protestors charged with hate crimes?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:49 pm to
I meant a noose in and of itself. Some people would have you believe that a noose is solely a black means of execution
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 4:50 pm to
How have they racially intimidated students attempting to attend a public university?
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