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re: 27,000 French soldiers were killed in combat on this day 110 years ago...

Posted on 8/22/24 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
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Posted on 8/22/24 at 8:10 pm to
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It is a miracle that France and its armies survived the month of August and even more of a miracle that they held on to win the war outright with their British and (later) American allies in tow.


This is partially due to the level of control the French army had over information that made it back to the French government and people. Basically they had absolute control over what both knew about the war, and of course kept them in the dark about just how bad the war was going for France. This situation remained throughout the war. Even when the French army finally broke and units began active mutiny in 1917, few outside of the French Army had any idea the extent of the collapse of French morale.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/22/24 at 8:12 pm to
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The battlefields were fairly static so bodies just lay in fields and disappeared under churned-up earth. I cant imagine a worse hell than spending days, weeks and months in those conditions. All the while having to remain below ground surface.


Bad as it was, they tried to rotate troops when possible, so they rarely spent more than a few days at a time in the worst conditions.


ETA by late in the war both sides had learned to lightly man the front line and keep the main body of troops in reserve, to be rushed forward only to repel an attack or carry out an attack themselves.
This post was edited on 8/22/24 at 10:50 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
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Posted on 8/22/24 at 8:16 pm to
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I’m not one for understanding military history, but WWI appears to have been fought in one of the worst styles, leaving tens of thousands of men dead just by sitting in trenches. At least in the American Civil War, the men could move and take cover on the move.


The trenches, as odd as this may sound, were not the cause of such high loss, but rather a reaction to them. If you look at casualty rates in the opening weeks of the war, before the stalemate developed and the advent of trench warfare, daily losses for all sides were far higher than after the trenches were dug. And then again at rhr end of the war, when once again maneuver warfare resumed, the daily loss rates once again skyrocketed.

Yes, trench warfare was a nightmare and millions died as a result. But, due the effectiveness of modern artillery and machine guns, the only thing that was more bloody than trench warfare was open maneuver warfare.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/22/24 at 8:44 pm to
Fance lost more men in Vietnam than we did, 55k were killed in action, thousands died as POWs.
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