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re: 17 Deplorable Examples of White Privilege
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:16 am to KajunGator
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:16 am to KajunGator
When you see a Jamaican, how would you ever know he was Jamaican just by seeing him? You would say he is black because until he says Mon, he could be Ugandan, or French, or Irish.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:19 am to The Third Leg
But the color of his skin does not dictate his race. His heritage does. You can't classify someone as African-American whose family was never in Africa to begin with.
Black is a color...not a race
Black is a color...not a race
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:21 am to KajunGator
You should talk to the US Census Bureau about that.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:41 am to The Third Leg
What is amazing is that you think I read through the entire thread and waited for just that point to discuss the underlying point you are discussing when I have repeatedly stated that I was addressing a specific assertion by a specific author.
I would certainly agree with you on this on the surface but you nor I have any evidence about this specific situation to point either way. You simply have the young man's, certainly unbiased, father's opinion.
Wait when I said:
"The embellishment of details here was done to garner another level of sentiment that should not be applied to situation in discussion."
You said:
"What embellishment?
He is trying to illustrate that his son is a white collared black guy."
But now it was an emotional plea?
And when I noted
"If forcing citizens to lie face down on the sidewalk was SOP by the NYPD for every officer surely this would have been publicized. So if it is not SOP, why must the reason be that the citizen was black? Why was that action assumed to be racially motivated? Why is it not a possibility that the particular officer involved was just a poor representation of a LEO in NY?"
You replied in certainty that:
"Considering the data I have posted, this seems absurdly implausible."
When I proved using the data you posted, that it was statistically improbable that the reason the black male in your selected story was forced to lie on the ground was simply because of the color of his skin:
You then claim I am not addressing your underlying point and revert back to talking about stop and frisk in general.
The fact is, the author wrote a statement that was fueled by his emotions, statistically improbable, and accused the officer involved of being racist and acting accordingly. By identifying one person in the situation as black, and shifting blame to all others without facts simply because something happened to the black guy is racist. I presumes others (not the black guy in the story) are inherently acting a certain way due to not being the black person.
But it is ok because he has a black son and is a lawyer.
quote:
The police shouldn't be stopping him at all, let alone searching him
I would certainly agree with you on this on the surface but you nor I have any evidence about this specific situation to point either way. You simply have the young man's, certainly unbiased, father's opinion.
quote:
They laying on the ground was his emotional appeal
Wait when I said:
"The embellishment of details here was done to garner another level of sentiment that should not be applied to situation in discussion."
You said:
"What embellishment?
He is trying to illustrate that his son is a white collared black guy."
But now it was an emotional plea?
And when I noted
"If forcing citizens to lie face down on the sidewalk was SOP by the NYPD for every officer surely this would have been publicized. So if it is not SOP, why must the reason be that the citizen was black? Why was that action assumed to be racially motivated? Why is it not a possibility that the particular officer involved was just a poor representation of a LEO in NY?"
You replied in certainty that:
"Considering the data I have posted, this seems absurdly implausible."
When I proved using the data you posted, that it was statistically improbable that the reason the black male in your selected story was forced to lie on the ground was simply because of the color of his skin:
You then claim I am not addressing your underlying point and revert back to talking about stop and frisk in general.
The fact is, the author wrote a statement that was fueled by his emotions, statistically improbable, and accused the officer involved of being racist and acting accordingly. By identifying one person in the situation as black, and shifting blame to all others without facts simply because something happened to the black guy is racist. I presumes others (not the black guy in the story) are inherently acting a certain way due to not being the black person.
But it is ok because he has a black son and is a lawyer.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:43 am to Bleeding purple
Let's go ahead and let this die. I've had enough racism to last me a few months.

Posted on 7/17/14 at 12:49 pm to The Third Leg
I agree. Let's let the social secondary gain that motivates so called skin color privilege die too. If we stop validating the existence of and exaggerating the impact of skin color privilege and focus instead on recognizing individual human achievement, promoting self evaluation, and respecting the ownership of poor choices and actions, maybe we can get to the point where color does not matter to even ourselves.
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