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Why the Saints got hosed by the Falcons.

Posted on 12/13/17 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 4:19 pm
Arthur Blank: Commissioner’s contract has Jerry Jones’ support

Posted by Charean Williams on December 13, 2017, 3:25 PM EST PFT

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Jerry Jones spoke for “5 to 10 minutes” during the NFL owners meetings Wednesday morning. By all accounts, the Cowboys owner is on board with the contract extension for Roger Goodell.

Jones is scheduled to speak with the media when the meetings conclude this afternoon.

“He was fine. He was a Texas gentleman,” Colts owner Jim Irsay said during a break.

Owners likely did not grab hands and sing Kumbaya, but they are singing the same song. Jones seems to have made peace with Goodell’s performance-based extension, which will pay him up to $200 million.

Falcons owner Arthur Blank, the chairman of the Compensation Committee, joined Committee member Bob McNair, the Houston Texans owner, in a conference call with Jones a few days before the contract was signed by Goodell.

“I’ve got a great respect for Jerry,” Blank said. “. . . It was a very good conversation. I thanked him, which I didn’t get a chance to do, or chose not to do really, the time we [the Falcons and Cowboys] played because I didn’t think it was the right setting. I thanked him for the help he’s been to myself and to many owners throughout the league, his leadership in stadium development and branding and marketing and a variety of issues. Jerry has been an active owner and an important owner in the progress of the league over the last 28 years.

“We were not necessarily connected totally on how this process should have been handled.”

Jones tried to derail the deal for Goodell, which will run through the 2023 season and into the spring of 2024. Jones failed because owners gave the Compensation Committee unanimous authorization in May 2017 to execute the contract.

Jones threatened to sue at one point in his fight, prompting the six owners on the Compensation Committee to send Jones a letter telling him to cease and desist. Blank would not comment on the letter.

“I was bothered by anything — and I think the owners are bothered by anything that was a distraction from the league and from the league’s business, both the issues and the opportunities that the league has,” Blank said. “I think there was a general strong feeling in the room that we need to bond together, be together, be a team on the field and off the field as a group of owners in dealing with the issues and the opportunities that the league has now. Our world is changing dramatically in terms of fans and how they’re receiving our content and the experience they have in the stadiums and obviously player relationships are critical, and player safety is critical. The view of the outside world of the league is very important to us. All of those issues we spent a great deal of time on this morning.”

Blank avoided Jones before the Falcons’ Nov. 12 game against the Cowboys, an unusual pregame occurrence between owners.

Jones has insisted that he has had the league’s best interests in mind, even as he fought the deal, and that his attempts to prevent the extension had nothing to do with his anger over Ezekiel Elliott‘s six-game suspension.

Blank was asked if Jones had mended fences, with the contract a single-issue disagreement or a long-term rift.

“I don’t know that there’s a rift going forward,” Blank said. “I think that Jerry, he loves the league; he loves the Cowboys; he’s very passionate about issues that he cares deeply about, which is great. I think it’s important to have different voices in the room. You’ve got a lot of very bright men and women in that room that care about not only their own franchise but care about the pillars of the National Football League, care about our fans, care about our players, care about our sponsors, care about media partners. I think we’re all committed to being connected and dealing with those issues.”


Blank was getting rewarded for his staunch support of Roger. Jones got hushed and any Saints support for any Jones initiative was equally slammed to the turf.

From the last minute substitution of an ex-Falcon employee to granting a team 9 first downs by penalty to taking 3 points off at halftime to not allowing a timeout and calling a penalty to effectively end the game, you get the full measure of a backdoor deal rearing its ugly head in primetime.
Posted by Cow Drogo
Member since Jul 2016
7399 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 4:27 pm to
Too long, didn’t read

However, we 1,000% got fricked
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

Too long, didn’t read

However, we 1,000% got fricked


Just read the highlighted portion and Blank's title on the committee selecting Roger.
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 4:50 pm to
Let’s move on from it. Just kick their arse next time
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 4:55 pm to
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Let’s move on from it. Just kick their arse next time


Nope. It is important that any Saints or NFL fan know the truth about how the sausage is made.

Watch the games for entertainment purposes and don't get mad at our players and coaches. Somethings are beyond their control.

You move on by not taking anything about the NFL serious.
Posted by MRTJ009
Anchorage Ak
Member since Oct 2017
23 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 5:00 pm to
lol i dont get why people just cant get over this. nothing will change the fact that we lost. NOTHING.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278499 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 5:08 pm to
God I wish I were dumb & simple enough to believe this
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
17730 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 5:18 pm to
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God I wish I were dumb & simple enough to believe this


In all fairness, you don't have enough information to know whether the game was swayed or not. So, for you to say absolutely that you do know, one way or the other, makes you sound dumb.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278499 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 5:28 pm to
THE fact that th Saints were 15 yards away from winning tells me it wasn’t swayed

Did the refs force Debo Jones to pick off Brees?

There was 1 bad call that prolonged a drive & y’all act like the refs knew the Falcons would score a TD at the end of it
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
17730 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 5:42 pm to
There were more bad calls than that. The interference on Lattimore on the first drive was terrible.

The thing is.....there are a lot of ticky tack calls that refs can call on every drive. If a ref calls a bunch on one team but not the other, it sways the game even though officially they arent "bad calls".
Posted by LlyodChristmas
The Abandoned Jazzland
Member since Jan 2013
2168 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 5:47 pm to
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THE fact that th Saints were 15 yards away from winning tells me it wasn’t swayed

Did the refs force Debo Jones to pick off Brees?

There was 1 bad call that prolonged a drive & y’all act like the refs knew the Falcons would score a TD at the end of it



No the fact the Saints were 15 yards away with the plethora of injuries and shitty officiating in favor of the Falcons shows you how much better the Saints are than the Falcons.
List go down the list of a few of shite calls/no calls
1.) Debo hitting Kamara in the head. Wasn't targeting but Kamara was a defenseless player and was hit squarely in the head by Debo. Should've been a 15 yard penalty.
2.) Payton shouldn't have gotten a penalty for trying to call a damn timeout after ref just asked if he wanted to take one but wouldn't stop the clock. I don't blame Sean for being as hot as he was in that moment after the shite that had unfolded in the past 58 and half minutes.
3.) That penalty on the field goal should've been a warning rather than a penalty. Players and coaches both said that.
4.) That roughing the passer call on a key third down (which Atlanta went on to score a TD on that drive) was complete bull shite.
5.) Trufant got away with a face mask on Mike Thomas on a key play late in the game.
6.) Horribly missed PA against Lattimore on that first drive.

You don't have to be blind to realize the ramifications of this game, along with other key factors.
If Saints win they essentially wrap up the division, come one step closer to a first round bye, and kill just about any chance the falcons have of making the playoffs, which in turn hurts the playoff race hugely.

If Falcons win, they close the gap in the NFC South race and make the Saints-Falcons game in week 16 and Falcons-Panthers game in week 17 both possible NFC South title games and play in games for the playoffs. Makes both games must-watch and brings in more interest for the playoff race.

Not to mention the NFL just hired the guy who gave the Saints away for bounty gate.

Its clear the NFL is going to do literally whatever it takes to make sure the ratings go up and the Saints fail. This isn't a conspiracy theory, this is clear evidence.

frick the NFL. frick Rodger Goodell.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 5:58 pm to
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No the fact the Saints were 15 yards away with the plethora of injuries and shitty officiating in favor of the Falcons shows you how much better the Saints are than the Falcons.
List go down the list of a few of shite calls/no calls
1.) Debo hitting Kamara in the head. Wasn't targeting but Kamara was a defenseless player and was hit squarely in the head by Debo. Should've been a 15 yard penalty.
2.) Payton shouldn't have gotten a penalty for trying to call a damn timeout after ref just asked if he wanted to take one but wouldn't stop the clock. I don't blame Sean for being as hot as he was in that moment after the shite that had unfolded in the past 58 and half minutes.
3.) That penalty on the field goal should've been a warning rather than a penalty. Players and coaches both said that.
4.) That roughing the passer call on a key third down (which Atlanta went on to score a TD on that drive) was complete bull shite.
5.) Trufant got away with a face mask on Mike Thomas on a key play late in the game.
6.) Horribly missed PA against Lattimore on that first drive.

You don't have to be blind to realize the ramifications of this game, along with other key factors.
If Saints win they essentially wrap up the division, come one step closer to a first round bye, and kill just about any chance the falcons have of making the playoffs, which in turn hurts the playoff race hugely.

If Falcons win, they close the gap in the NFC South race and make the Saints-Falcons game in week 16 and Falcons-Panthers game in week 17 both possible NFC South title games and play in games for the playoffs. Makes both games must-watch and brings in more interest for the playoff race.

Not to mention the NFL just hired the guy who gave the Saints away for bounty gate.

Its clear the NFL is going to do literally whatever it takes to make sure the ratings go up and the Saints fail. This isn't a conspiracy theory, this is clear evidence.

frick the NFL. frick Rodger Goodell.


This was all scripted to massage the outcome.

I am sorry that some of you do not want to view the man behind the curtain from the "Wizard of Oz".
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 6:12 pm to
It keeps getting better and better doesn’t it
Posted by saintsalwaysnumber1
Newport news Va
Member since Dec 2008
1372 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 6:16 pm to
miamia beat the pats to keep the dolphins in the hunt. Also is it me or every team that gets a new stadium gets in to the playoffs.Plus the only reason why chargers are winning now is because no one was going to chargers games or watching and apparently Los Angelos had a survey come out from the nfl and it was because the Chargers sucked. So since then they been winning. Rams only winning because they want to make that move from St Louis look like it was a good move. Watch what I tell you next year the Raiders will be twenty times better just because they want the Vegas move look like it was a good move.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 6:34 pm to
Hebert brought that exact point out
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 6:45 pm to
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Blank avoided Jones before the Falcons’ Nov. 12 game against the Cowboys

Of course he did. Can you imagine how smarmy Jones would have been about him (you know the guy who used to own Home Depot) not getting his stadium built in time for the season?

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Arthur, did your guys manage to get the top of your stadium working yet? Let me guess, they noticed the problems on February 6th?
Posted by LlyodChristmas
The Abandoned Jazzland
Member since Jan 2013
2168 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 6:56 pm to
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Plus the only reason why chargers are winning now is because no one was going to chargers games or watching and apparently Los Angelos had a survey come out from the nfl and it was because the Chargers sucked. So since then they been winning. Rams only winning because they want to make that move from St Louis look like it was a good move.

You had me til there. I disagree completely with you. I think both teams a good teams. The Chargers have a legitimately great roster and are actually healthy for once. We knew for years the Rams had a great defense but they could figure out the offense. They hire one of the great offensive minds in the league and he’s producing wins.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278499 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:37 pm to
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Debo hitting Kamara in the head. Wasn't targeting but Kamara was a defenseless player and was hit squarely in the head by Debo. Should've been a 15 yard penalty.


I’ll stop here cause I know where this is going.

You clearly do not know the rules
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:46 am to
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Goodell’s performance-based extension, which will pay him up to $200 million.


Dude got a 200 Million Dollar performance based extension for being the worst commissioner in NFL history and slowly destroying any fun left in the NFL.

Which is the most likely scenario:

1. He knows where too many bodies are burried

2. He has incriminating pictures of all owners

3. He submissively participates in bukkake gangbang orgies with all the owners and chooses to go seventh?
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