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re: Why do Saints fans hate the 49ers?

Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:44 pm to
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your arguments are not relevant to the discussion


wrong again, just because you don't understand them doesn't make them any less relevant.
Posted by Aced
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:45 pm to
I'd like to know what you think describes a major college team.
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:46 pm to
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Just cause you were a bandwagon nfl fan doesn't mean the rest of louisiana is.



Well there are about 3 times as many Saints fans around as there were pre-Drew Brees and Sean Payton so I'm not sure that's accurate. Harrah's used to have to buy out the dome every week to keep it from being blacked out.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:46 pm to
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I'd like to know what you think described a major college team.


member of a major conference and/or capable of winning the national title
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:47 pm to
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HideChaKidz
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Don't talk about things you know nothing of, kid
so you're saying he should hide?
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:48 pm to
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The Saints represent the state of Louisiana not just New Orleans. This I grew up in Baton Rouge not New Orleans argument is crap.


Maybe for you they do, not everyone views the saints the same way you do
Posted by Aced
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:49 pm to
The University of Louisiana's baseball team is ranked and capable of winning the national title. There is two major college teams.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:49 pm to
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Maybe for you they do, not everyone views the saints the same way you do


These people are totally incapable of seeing outside themselves. That much is clear.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:51 pm to
University of Louisiana? You mean the dash?

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:51 pm to
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University of Louisiana





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and capable of winning the national title


you're so cute
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:51 pm to
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wrong again, just because you don't understand them doesn't make them any less relevant.
your statements aren't complex and hard to understand. they have nothing to do with fan loyalty however. nfl is a business yes teams can move yes an owner can be a douchebag doesn't change the fact that Louisiana has an nfl team. fans aren't worried about the business aspect of it when watching games. only faux elitists do this and use it to belittle sports fandom. when fans are watching their home team play you think they sit there and say man I can't root for this team the GM once pushed a girl down on the playground in 3rd grade.

the college argument holds no water because LA has numerous college sports teams.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:51 pm to
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The University of Louisiana's baseball team
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:52 pm to
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You mean the dash?


Dash no longer exists. Sun Belt got rid of it.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:54 pm to
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I'd like to know what you think described a major college team.


member of a major conference and/or capable of winning the national title
so boise st. would not be considered a major college football team to you?
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:54 pm to
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draconian sanction's ridiculous copout claim aside the saints are Louisiana's team. if you are from Louisiana and rooting against the Louisiana team you are not loyal to the home team. the definition of loyal is giving or showing firm and constant support or allegiance to a person or institution. he is not giving or showing firm and constant support or allegiance to the home team therefore he is being disloyal to his home team


Well that's simply your opinion. You're acting like the saints are fighting a world war or something. They are a football team, if someone chooses not to be a fan of them then who cares

And your definition of loyal just proved my point. No random person in louisiana is a part of the saints institution. A person has no actual connection to a football team.

Being disloyal would mean he was a big supporter/fan of the saints then one day jumping ship and going with some other team
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:56 pm to
Do you consider a top 25 ranked team capable of winning the national title? If you do then by your own standards, UL is a major college team.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:56 pm to
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they have nothing to do with fan loyalty however


fan loyalty, in pro sports, is silly (unless your a Packer fan). You're just a customer to them. The team is made up of a bunch of different guys from a bunch of different parts of the country who would all play for the team you hate the most if they offered them a better contract. It's entertaining, it's fun but it's not important. College sports, while becoming more of a pure business every day, at least is made up of players who chose to attend your school rather than being drafted or bought (usually) and is attached to a place that you likely had a lot of personal experiences with as a student. It's a much more profound relationship. Rooting for LSU is about much more than just football or baseball or whatever it is.

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the college argument holds no water because LA has numerous college sports teams.


There is only one major college program in Louisiana. That is a fact.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:57 pm to
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so boise st. would not be considered a major college football team to you?


no
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:58 pm to
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Being disloyal would mean he was a big supporter/fan of the saints then one day jumping ship and going with some other team
definition of disloyal

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failing to support or be true to someone or something : not loyal or faithful to your friends, family, country, etc.


isn't conditional on being a supporter prior. failing to support to someone or something.

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And your definition of loyal just proved my point. No random person in louisiana is a part of the saints institution
refer to disloyal definition

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failing to support or be true to someone or something : not loyal or faithful to your friends, family, country, etc.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 3:58 pm to
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Do you consider a top 25 ranked team capable of winning the national title?


not necessarily

definitely not in Lafayette's case
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 3:59 pm
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