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What the NFL personal conduct policy says about possible Alvin Kamara suspension

Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:23 pm
Posted by hellsu
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:23 pm
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New Orleans Saints running back Alvin Kamara has plead no contest to a misdemeanor charge for his alleged involvement in a fight in Las Vegas in 2022, and is no longer facing felony charges. For a quick legal summary, a guilty plea is an admission that you committed the crime. In contrast, a plea of nolo contendere, or no contest, means you accept the conviction or punishments of a guilty plea without admitting guilt. An Alford Plea is one where you plead guilty but claim you are innocent; both result in a conviction, technically speaking.

Most defendants enter no contest pleas in an agreement with the judge overseeing the case as they then determine the sentencing or outcome. In Kamara’s case, he’s agreed to serve 30 hours of community service and to pay $105,000 in medical bills for the alleged victim. A key factor in no contest pleas is that they cannot be used as an admission of guilt in civil proceedings, which have also been settled.

The NFL’s new conduct policy has taken the approach to wait until criminal proceedings play out in court before handing down discipline, in this case likely a multi-game suspension. Importantly, the policy considers a criminal conviction equal to being subject to a “disposition of criminal proceedings” in assessing disciplinary actions, defined in their policy as follows:
“Includes an adjudication of guilt or admission to a criminal violation; a plea to a lesser included offense; a plea of nolo contendere or no contest; or the disposition of the proceeding through a diversionary program, deferred adjudication, disposition of supervision, conditional dismissal, or similar arrangements.”

The league takes repeat offenders into account in assessing periods of suspension, and Kamara importantly has no prior history of conduct detrimental to the league. Unlike Marshon Lattimore’s case involving alleged possession of a stolen gun, charges of which he plead down to a misdemeanor in 2021, Kamara’s allegations are of a violent nature; a suspension is to be expected.

Looking at previous cases, the most similar suspension was to a former Minnesota Vikings offensive lineman, Bryant McKinnie, in 2008 for four games after he was arrested on aggravated battery charges outside a nightclub. Violence of domestic nature, child abuse, and sexual assault cases typically incur higher punishments in the form of six or more game suspensions. The NFL is ultimately not a legal entity and legal precedent doesn’t hold bindings to their prior issuances of suspensions. It’s impossible to predict, but a suspension of four to six games would be in line with established precedent.


(Four game suspension seems Ballpark so I would say anything below 4 games indicates a kind and gentle Godell. Anything above 4 games says that Circus Clown still has it in for us. He will always have a hard on Payton which doesn't bother me one bit.)
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:36 pm to
Kamara is very very fortunate, he got off easy. I wonder if their will be a civil case or if Kamara paid the guy to go away.
Posted by VictoryHill
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:44 pm to
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I wonder if their will be a civil case or if Kamara paid the guy to go away.

Pretty sure he settled the civil suit already for $100k.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
50052 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:40 pm to
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Pretty sure he settled the civil suit already for $100k.



I don't think so

New Orleans Saints running back Alvin Kamara on Tuesday pleaded no contest to a lesser misdemeanor charge of breach of peace for an incident that took place in Las Vegas in February 2022, per the Clark County (Nevada) District Court.

Kamara, 27, will have to complete 30 hours of community service and pay $105,196.17 in restitution to the victim, Darnell Greene, for past due medical expenses as a result of his no contest plea. Kamara also will be fined $500.

This was the criminal part, he was ordered to pay restitution for this guys past due medical bills. This has nothing to do with anything civil. The guy might just let it go but I doubt it.
Posted by VictoryHill
Watson, LA
Member since Nov 2013
3261 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:48 pm to
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/alvin-kamara-also-settles-civil-suit-stemming-from-las-vegas-fight
Saints running back Alvin Kamara has agreed to settle the civil case against him stemming from a fight in Las Vegas during the 2022 Pro Bowl weekend.

Tony Buzbee, the attorney representing the victim of the alleged assault, announced on social media that “this matter has settled on confidential terms.”

Ah, I mistook the criminal restitution for the civil settlement but it does say the civil suit was settled also.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79998 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 8:09 pm to
Civil is settled as well
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