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Saints training camp, Day 7 (Wednesday) observations: Still hard to guard Michael Thomas
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:30 pm
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For the second straight day, the New Orleans Saints took practice indoors, this time for their longest session of training camp.
And there was a lot to take away from Wednesday’s practice, including one highly anticipated camp debut, a return to competitive football for a star receiver and yet another camp scuffle that resulted in the ejection of two players.
Attendance
The following players did not practice Wednesday: Tight ends Taysom Hill and Lucas Krull, defensive ends Marcus Davenport and Payton Turner, defensive backs Smoke Monday and Dylan Mabin and wide receiver Rashid Shaheed.
Safety Tyrann Mathieu was back on the field after missing the first six practices of training camp to attend to a personal matter. He did not participate in any full-team periods, and coach Dennis Allen said he’ll be ramped up slowly.
Tight end Chris Herndon also participated in Wednesday’s practice after signing with the team Tuesday. He caught one pass during a seven-on-seven period.
Can’t guard Mike
For the first time in training camp, the Saints sent receiver Michael Thomas out for a competitive drill.
It was not a surprise to see quarterback Jameis Winston go to Thomas right away in the seven-on-seven drill, firing a short completion to the receiver. Then the Saints kept going Thomas’ direction, as the quarterbacks targeted Thomas on each of his first three snaps. Thomas hauled in all of the passes for short gains — including a contested catch with Bradley Roby in coverage.
For a relatively small step, it felt significant seeing Thomas back on the field against live competition.
“It was awesome,” Allen said. “Seeing him get a few routes, actually go up against a defender, I thought he looked good on the plays that he got. I was excited about seeing that. I think it’s another step in the right direction.”
Thomas has not yet graduated to full-team drills, and he remained on the sideline as the Saints went through a couple of run-focused 11-on-11 periods. Allen said Thomas has been involved in the planning for how the team progresses his practice snaps.
“With Mike, you explain what you’re looking for and you’re listening to what he has to say,” Allen said. “I think he responds well to that. He’s been outstanding.”
During a special teams period, Thomas linked up with Winston and the quarterbacks to work on timing for back-shoulder throws near the goal line.
Limited reps
For much of this training camp, Landon Young has served as the starting right tackle — including every snap during team drills Wednesday. While the Saints like Young’s makeup, All-Pro Ryan Ramczyk is not going anywhere.
“It’s just trying a little more of a maintenance plan,” Allen said. “We’ve got a few of those guys we’ve got a little bit of a plan with, trying to limit some of the snaps they’re getting. But I feel good about where he’s at and what he’s doing while he’s out here. It’s all part of the plan.”
Ramczyk has been present for every practice.
Three stars
RB Alvin Kamara: It’s been a fairly quiet camp for Kamara as the Saints are clearly limiting his usage, but every now and then he pops in to remind everyone what he can do, as he did when he sped through the heart of the defense for a long run during a full-team period.
DB Alontae Taylor: One-on-one matchups almost always favor the receiver, and Taylor was beat twice Wednesday. But the two wins were impressive, including one where he completely locked up first-rounder Chris Olave. Taylor has the look of a player who grows more confident by the day.
DE Carl Granderson: Getting first-team reps with Davenport and Turner out, Granderson recorded one “sack” (quarterbacks are off-limits) and another play where he collapsed the pocket and flushed Winston, forcing an off-target throw.
Up next
The Saints will return for the eighth practice of training camp Thursday at 9 a.m. It is open to the public.
For the second straight day, the New Orleans Saints took practice indoors, this time for their longest session of training camp.
And there was a lot to take away from Wednesday’s practice, including one highly anticipated camp debut, a return to competitive football for a star receiver and yet another camp scuffle that resulted in the ejection of two players.
Attendance
The following players did not practice Wednesday: Tight ends Taysom Hill and Lucas Krull, defensive ends Marcus Davenport and Payton Turner, defensive backs Smoke Monday and Dylan Mabin and wide receiver Rashid Shaheed.
Safety Tyrann Mathieu was back on the field after missing the first six practices of training camp to attend to a personal matter. He did not participate in any full-team periods, and coach Dennis Allen said he’ll be ramped up slowly.
Tight end Chris Herndon also participated in Wednesday’s practice after signing with the team Tuesday. He caught one pass during a seven-on-seven period.
Can’t guard Mike
For the first time in training camp, the Saints sent receiver Michael Thomas out for a competitive drill.
It was not a surprise to see quarterback Jameis Winston go to Thomas right away in the seven-on-seven drill, firing a short completion to the receiver. Then the Saints kept going Thomas’ direction, as the quarterbacks targeted Thomas on each of his first three snaps. Thomas hauled in all of the passes for short gains — including a contested catch with Bradley Roby in coverage.
For a relatively small step, it felt significant seeing Thomas back on the field against live competition.
“It was awesome,” Allen said. “Seeing him get a few routes, actually go up against a defender, I thought he looked good on the plays that he got. I was excited about seeing that. I think it’s another step in the right direction.”
Thomas has not yet graduated to full-team drills, and he remained on the sideline as the Saints went through a couple of run-focused 11-on-11 periods. Allen said Thomas has been involved in the planning for how the team progresses his practice snaps.
“With Mike, you explain what you’re looking for and you’re listening to what he has to say,” Allen said. “I think he responds well to that. He’s been outstanding.”
During a special teams period, Thomas linked up with Winston and the quarterbacks to work on timing for back-shoulder throws near the goal line.
Limited reps
For much of this training camp, Landon Young has served as the starting right tackle — including every snap during team drills Wednesday. While the Saints like Young’s makeup, All-Pro Ryan Ramczyk is not going anywhere.
“It’s just trying a little more of a maintenance plan,” Allen said. “We’ve got a few of those guys we’ve got a little bit of a plan with, trying to limit some of the snaps they’re getting. But I feel good about where he’s at and what he’s doing while he’s out here. It’s all part of the plan.”
Ramczyk has been present for every practice.
Three stars
RB Alvin Kamara: It’s been a fairly quiet camp for Kamara as the Saints are clearly limiting his usage, but every now and then he pops in to remind everyone what he can do, as he did when he sped through the heart of the defense for a long run during a full-team period.
DB Alontae Taylor: One-on-one matchups almost always favor the receiver, and Taylor was beat twice Wednesday. But the two wins were impressive, including one where he completely locked up first-rounder Chris Olave. Taylor has the look of a player who grows more confident by the day.
DE Carl Granderson: Getting first-team reps with Davenport and Turner out, Granderson recorded one “sack” (quarterbacks are off-limits) and another play where he collapsed the pocket and flushed Winston, forcing an off-target throw.
Up next
The Saints will return for the eighth practice of training camp Thursday at 9 a.m. It is open to the public.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 9:38 pm
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:31 pm to GMoney2600
Saints Training Camp: Notes and Observations from Day 7
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The Saints were back at it on Wednesday, as the media got an exclusive look at things for Day 7 of training camp. Despite being in just helmets and shells, the inside session had some really spirited moments to it, with things boiling over later in practice. Here's all of our notes and observations.
ATTENDANCE: Tyrann Mathieu returned to practice today, which is the main takeaway here. He had been out of training camp since the start handling a family issue. Everything I heard on this was that he just needed time, so it's a great sign to have him back out there. He'll have a ramp up period, according to Dennis Allen. He participated in individual drills, position specific drills, and walkthroughs.
Among those not spotted at Wednesday's practice included Taysom Hill, Dylan Mabin, Smoke Monday, Lucas Krull, Brandon Dillon, Rashid Shaheed, and Payton Turner. Marcus Davenport was spotted doing some rehab work in the indoor facility. Dillon's No. 86 was being worn by the recently acquired Chris Herndon.
Allen had no updates on Smoke Monday, who was believed to have suffered a significant knee injury on Tuesday.
It appeared that Jarvis Landry had a rest day. One thing that NewOrleans.Football's Nick Underhill pointed out on C.J. Gardner-Johnson was that he's limiting himself in practices, seeking a new contract.
WALKTHROUGH OFFENSE: This has been the norm seeing a line of James Hurst, Andrus Peat, Erik McCoy, Cesar Ruiz, and Landon Young. When asked after practice, Allen said the reason we're seeing Young more here is because of a maintenance plan.
"We've got a few of those guys that we've got a little bit of a plan with that we're trying to limit some of the snaps that they're getting," Allen said.
Among the others we saw with the first team included Nick Vannett, Marquez Callaway, Alvin Kamara, Mark Ingram, Tre'Quan Smith, Jarvis Landry, Chris Olave, Deonte Harty, Kevin White, Adam Trautman, Dwayne Washington, Ryan Ramczyk, Juwan Johnson, and Adam Prentice.
Second-team offensive line had Trevor Penning, Ethan Greenidge, Nick Martin, Calvin Throckmorton, and Lewis Kidd.
WALKTHROUGH DEFENSE: The Saints rolled out a nickel look today, with Cam Jordan, David Onyemata, Shy Tuttle, and Carl Granderson on the line, Pete Werner and Demario Davis at linebacker, and C.J. Gardner-Johnson in the slot. Paulson Adebo and Marshon Lattimore were at corner, with Marcus Maye and Tyrann Mathieu at safety. Aside Granderson, this is probably the starting defense. When Davenport returns, he'll likely be that guy opposite of Jordan.
Subs included Kaden Elliss, Eric Wilson, P.J. Williams, Taco Charlton, Malcolm Roach, and Kentavius Street.
JAMEIS WINSTON: It's worth pointing out how well Winston is moving around. There was a quarterback drill where Ronald Curry had four cones spaced out in a direct line, and each thrower was facing and going the opposite direction from the net target weaving in and out around these to then turn around to be greeted by a large yoga ball. They had to evade the yoga ball and make the throw into one of the three targets. Winston hit his first one after looking great in the rep.
1-ON-1 WORK: Jameis Winston handled all passes thrown in this session, and here's several of the reps that stood out.
-Chris Olave vs. Alontae Taylor - Alontae won this one after doing some things that helped pull Olave to the ground. This could have been flagged, but these Saints corners have been extremely physical all camp.
-Marquez Callaway vs. Bradley Roby - Credit Roby for a pass breakup here. Callaway initially won the route, but Roby did a great job recovering to break this one up deep down the right sideline.
-Easop Winston Jr. vs. Bryce Thompson - Thompson won the rep off the line by pushing Winston Jr. to the ground.
-Chris Olave vs. Paulson Adebo - Another day and it's another pass breakup for Adebo near the right sideline. He had two in drills.
-Tre'Quan Smith vs. Alontae Taylor - Smith bested Taylor here by getting a score on a middle fade route.
-Easop Winston Jr. vs. Bryce Thompson - Winston Jr. got revenge here from earlier after scoring from a deep pass down the left sideline. It was a great route and throw.
-Tre'Quan Smith vs. Alontae Taylor - Revenge from earlier for Taylor after providing excellent coverage on a deep left sideline shot.
7-ON-7: The biggest takeaway here is that Michael Thomas participated in this drill. He hadn't since the start of training camp. He did not disappoint either, hauling all three of his targets, including the first two plays from Jameis Winston. We touched on him yesterday, but Thomas is looking outstanding.
Jameis Winston went 3-of-4, Andy Dalton went 4-of-4, and Ian Book went 3-of-4. Winston's lone incompletion was due to a Bradley Roby pass breakup on an inside route. Roby had a good jump on the ball and nearly picked it off.
Andy Dalton also hit Thomas to begin his series, and then threaded a real needle to Juwan Johnson over the middle with Alontae Taylor and Eric Wilson in coverage. He then found Chris Olave for a nice intermediate gain near the left sideline.
Ian Book's first pass was broken up by Bradley Roby, which was an inside slant route to Chris Olave. He came back to hit Dai'Jean Dixon underneath, Chris Herndon on an out route, and Kawaan Baker down the sideline for an intermediate gain.
LINK
The Saints were back at it on Wednesday, as the media got an exclusive look at things for Day 7 of training camp. Despite being in just helmets and shells, the inside session had some really spirited moments to it, with things boiling over later in practice. Here's all of our notes and observations.
ATTENDANCE: Tyrann Mathieu returned to practice today, which is the main takeaway here. He had been out of training camp since the start handling a family issue. Everything I heard on this was that he just needed time, so it's a great sign to have him back out there. He'll have a ramp up period, according to Dennis Allen. He participated in individual drills, position specific drills, and walkthroughs.
Among those not spotted at Wednesday's practice included Taysom Hill, Dylan Mabin, Smoke Monday, Lucas Krull, Brandon Dillon, Rashid Shaheed, and Payton Turner. Marcus Davenport was spotted doing some rehab work in the indoor facility. Dillon's No. 86 was being worn by the recently acquired Chris Herndon.
Allen had no updates on Smoke Monday, who was believed to have suffered a significant knee injury on Tuesday.
It appeared that Jarvis Landry had a rest day. One thing that NewOrleans.Football's Nick Underhill pointed out on C.J. Gardner-Johnson was that he's limiting himself in practices, seeking a new contract.
WALKTHROUGH OFFENSE: This has been the norm seeing a line of James Hurst, Andrus Peat, Erik McCoy, Cesar Ruiz, and Landon Young. When asked after practice, Allen said the reason we're seeing Young more here is because of a maintenance plan.
"We've got a few of those guys that we've got a little bit of a plan with that we're trying to limit some of the snaps that they're getting," Allen said.
Among the others we saw with the first team included Nick Vannett, Marquez Callaway, Alvin Kamara, Mark Ingram, Tre'Quan Smith, Jarvis Landry, Chris Olave, Deonte Harty, Kevin White, Adam Trautman, Dwayne Washington, Ryan Ramczyk, Juwan Johnson, and Adam Prentice.
Second-team offensive line had Trevor Penning, Ethan Greenidge, Nick Martin, Calvin Throckmorton, and Lewis Kidd.
WALKTHROUGH DEFENSE: The Saints rolled out a nickel look today, with Cam Jordan, David Onyemata, Shy Tuttle, and Carl Granderson on the line, Pete Werner and Demario Davis at linebacker, and C.J. Gardner-Johnson in the slot. Paulson Adebo and Marshon Lattimore were at corner, with Marcus Maye and Tyrann Mathieu at safety. Aside Granderson, this is probably the starting defense. When Davenport returns, he'll likely be that guy opposite of Jordan.
Subs included Kaden Elliss, Eric Wilson, P.J. Williams, Taco Charlton, Malcolm Roach, and Kentavius Street.
JAMEIS WINSTON: It's worth pointing out how well Winston is moving around. There was a quarterback drill where Ronald Curry had four cones spaced out in a direct line, and each thrower was facing and going the opposite direction from the net target weaving in and out around these to then turn around to be greeted by a large yoga ball. They had to evade the yoga ball and make the throw into one of the three targets. Winston hit his first one after looking great in the rep.
1-ON-1 WORK: Jameis Winston handled all passes thrown in this session, and here's several of the reps that stood out.
-Chris Olave vs. Alontae Taylor - Alontae won this one after doing some things that helped pull Olave to the ground. This could have been flagged, but these Saints corners have been extremely physical all camp.
-Marquez Callaway vs. Bradley Roby - Credit Roby for a pass breakup here. Callaway initially won the route, but Roby did a great job recovering to break this one up deep down the right sideline.
-Easop Winston Jr. vs. Bryce Thompson - Thompson won the rep off the line by pushing Winston Jr. to the ground.
-Chris Olave vs. Paulson Adebo - Another day and it's another pass breakup for Adebo near the right sideline. He had two in drills.
-Tre'Quan Smith vs. Alontae Taylor - Smith bested Taylor here by getting a score on a middle fade route.
-Easop Winston Jr. vs. Bryce Thompson - Winston Jr. got revenge here from earlier after scoring from a deep pass down the left sideline. It was a great route and throw.
-Tre'Quan Smith vs. Alontae Taylor - Revenge from earlier for Taylor after providing excellent coverage on a deep left sideline shot.
7-ON-7: The biggest takeaway here is that Michael Thomas participated in this drill. He hadn't since the start of training camp. He did not disappoint either, hauling all three of his targets, including the first two plays from Jameis Winston. We touched on him yesterday, but Thomas is looking outstanding.
Jameis Winston went 3-of-4, Andy Dalton went 4-of-4, and Ian Book went 3-of-4. Winston's lone incompletion was due to a Bradley Roby pass breakup on an inside route. Roby had a good jump on the ball and nearly picked it off.
Andy Dalton also hit Thomas to begin his series, and then threaded a real needle to Juwan Johnson over the middle with Alontae Taylor and Eric Wilson in coverage. He then found Chris Olave for a nice intermediate gain near the left sideline.
Ian Book's first pass was broken up by Bradley Roby, which was an inside slant route to Chris Olave. He came back to hit Dai'Jean Dixon underneath, Chris Herndon on an out route, and Kawaan Baker down the sideline for an intermediate gain.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:31 pm to GMoney2600
11-ON-11: The first portion had another familiar feel to it being that it focused on running plays. Bradley Roby and Paulson Adebo ended up starting at corner, with P.J. Williams in for Tyrann Mathieu. Landon Young was at right tackle.
Pete Werner and Carl Granderson combined for a good run stop on Tony Jones Jr. on the second rep with Winston under center, and Alvin Kamara then rattled off a big run in the middle. The following play saw Taco Charlton best Trevor Penning, pushing him to the ground during the rep. Penning got thrown to the ground again on the second run play with Dalton at quarterback. Isaiah Pryor had a nice tackle for loss on Devine Ozigbo to close the run portion team drills out.
The second time we saw 11-on-11 had Jameis Winston got 2-of-2, Andy Dalton finish 2-of-2, and Ian Book got 1-of-1. Winston was sacked on the second play by Carl Granderson after rolling out left. Taco Charlton jumped early on the final rep, which gave Winston a free play to connect on a deep fade route to Kirk Merritt.
Abram Smith had a nice run to get Dalton's series going. Dalton's first pass was a little high for Deonte Harty, but he did make a good attempt going up to get it. Unfortunately, the ball hit the ground. The second attempt was an overthrow to Marquez Callaway over the middle.
The final team drills to help close out Wednesday saw each quarterback get five reps. Jameis Winston finished 3-of-4. James Hurst had a false start to begin the drill. Winston hit Deonte Harty on a deep out near the right sideline on his second pass attempt. He would have been sacked by Carl Granderson on the ensuing play, which ended up being an overthrow intended for Chris Olave. The next play led to a fight (more on that later), but Winston still found Tre'Quan Smith.
Andy Dalton went 2-of-4 after the first play was an inside zone to Abram Smith that got stopped for a minimal gain. Marquez Callaway had a heck of a catch on Dalton's first pass here, displaying his ups to get it over the middle working against Bryce Thompson. His next pass was spot on for a deep sideline hookup to Olave, but he couldn't find it. He tried deep again on the next play to Kawaan Baker, but it was overthrown.
Ian Book finished 0-of-2, and ended up scrambling out of the pocket twice. Both would have went for large gains. Jordan Jackson had a nice run stop on Devine Ozigbo to start the series, and the first pass Book threw likely would have went down as a sack instead of the incomplete deep attempt to Chris Olave. Shy Tuttle had a pass breakup on the fourth play with Taco Charlton pressuring.
TIMING/CHEMISTRY WORK: In between team drills, Jameis Winston had one particular session where he was working with just Michael Thomas, Chris Olave, and Easop Winston Jr. Timing and chemistry seemed to be the theme here. Winston threw two backshoulder passes to Thomas in the end zone. Just something to note.
TEMPERS BOIL OVER: Trevor Penning and Malcolm Roach got thrown out of practice after a fight ensued in the final portion of team drills. Penning won the rep against Roach and had him on the ground, but it appeared that Roach took exception. The two got into it, and then the rest of the team came together afterwards to help break things up, which led to more pushing and shoving.
"Yeah, we don't have time for that," Dennis Allen said after practice.
"I sent two guys in today, and we got to get our work done. We got to learn as a team how to compete and how to play and how to practice and push ourselves to the limit but yet not take it over the edge."
Look, it's easy to point the blame on Penning, but I can't help but feel like they're goading him into it. You do have to control yourself, no matter what.
BACKUP CENTER: We probably haven't touched on this lately, but Nick Martin has been the second guy snapping. At one point, we saw Forrest Lamp and Josh Andrews doing this. Andrews had a high one and low snap today, which is never a good sign when you have competition.
KEEP AN EYE ON: Not having Payton Turner and Marcus Davenport out there has put more of a focus on Scott Patchan on the edge. There's some Mitchell Loewen vibes here, for those who remember, and the reps between him and Trevor Penning have been some of the best in camp. He's made some nice run stops, tackles for loss, had some sacks, and is maximizing his snaps.
Pete Werner and Carl Granderson combined for a good run stop on Tony Jones Jr. on the second rep with Winston under center, and Alvin Kamara then rattled off a big run in the middle. The following play saw Taco Charlton best Trevor Penning, pushing him to the ground during the rep. Penning got thrown to the ground again on the second run play with Dalton at quarterback. Isaiah Pryor had a nice tackle for loss on Devine Ozigbo to close the run portion team drills out.
The second time we saw 11-on-11 had Jameis Winston got 2-of-2, Andy Dalton finish 2-of-2, and Ian Book got 1-of-1. Winston was sacked on the second play by Carl Granderson after rolling out left. Taco Charlton jumped early on the final rep, which gave Winston a free play to connect on a deep fade route to Kirk Merritt.
Abram Smith had a nice run to get Dalton's series going. Dalton's first pass was a little high for Deonte Harty, but he did make a good attempt going up to get it. Unfortunately, the ball hit the ground. The second attempt was an overthrow to Marquez Callaway over the middle.
The final team drills to help close out Wednesday saw each quarterback get five reps. Jameis Winston finished 3-of-4. James Hurst had a false start to begin the drill. Winston hit Deonte Harty on a deep out near the right sideline on his second pass attempt. He would have been sacked by Carl Granderson on the ensuing play, which ended up being an overthrow intended for Chris Olave. The next play led to a fight (more on that later), but Winston still found Tre'Quan Smith.
Andy Dalton went 2-of-4 after the first play was an inside zone to Abram Smith that got stopped for a minimal gain. Marquez Callaway had a heck of a catch on Dalton's first pass here, displaying his ups to get it over the middle working against Bryce Thompson. His next pass was spot on for a deep sideline hookup to Olave, but he couldn't find it. He tried deep again on the next play to Kawaan Baker, but it was overthrown.
Ian Book finished 0-of-2, and ended up scrambling out of the pocket twice. Both would have went for large gains. Jordan Jackson had a nice run stop on Devine Ozigbo to start the series, and the first pass Book threw likely would have went down as a sack instead of the incomplete deep attempt to Chris Olave. Shy Tuttle had a pass breakup on the fourth play with Taco Charlton pressuring.
TIMING/CHEMISTRY WORK: In between team drills, Jameis Winston had one particular session where he was working with just Michael Thomas, Chris Olave, and Easop Winston Jr. Timing and chemistry seemed to be the theme here. Winston threw two backshoulder passes to Thomas in the end zone. Just something to note.
TEMPERS BOIL OVER: Trevor Penning and Malcolm Roach got thrown out of practice after a fight ensued in the final portion of team drills. Penning won the rep against Roach and had him on the ground, but it appeared that Roach took exception. The two got into it, and then the rest of the team came together afterwards to help break things up, which led to more pushing and shoving.
"Yeah, we don't have time for that," Dennis Allen said after practice.
"I sent two guys in today, and we got to get our work done. We got to learn as a team how to compete and how to play and how to practice and push ourselves to the limit but yet not take it over the edge."
Look, it's easy to point the blame on Penning, but I can't help but feel like they're goading him into it. You do have to control yourself, no matter what.
BACKUP CENTER: We probably haven't touched on this lately, but Nick Martin has been the second guy snapping. At one point, we saw Forrest Lamp and Josh Andrews doing this. Andrews had a high one and low snap today, which is never a good sign when you have competition.
KEEP AN EYE ON: Not having Payton Turner and Marcus Davenport out there has put more of a focus on Scott Patchan on the edge. There's some Mitchell Loewen vibes here, for those who remember, and the reps between him and Trevor Penning have been some of the best in camp. He's made some nice run stops, tackles for loss, had some sacks, and is maximizing his snaps.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:57 pm to GMoney2600
Worried about Ramczyk
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:07 pm to DBG
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Worried about Ramczyk
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:15 pm to gaetti15
I’m worried he was banged up all last season, had minor offseason surgery, and is on a pitch count in camp
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:17 pm to DBG
Your going to see this all over the league especially with vets as there now is another game added to the season.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 12:52 am to goatmilker
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Your going to see this all over the league especially with vets as there now is another game added to the season.
OLine is going to determine our success. Winston isn't Drew. Give him time and he can make every throw but once the pocket collapses there will be mistakes. We'll finally get to see if he's really improved or if he loses games because of bad decisions.
We play falcons in Atlanta. I'm betting on Atlanta to cover the 4 points in week 1. Atlanta might be trash again but they are tough at home.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 1:15 am to saintsfan1977
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Atlanta might be trash again but they are tough at home.
They used to be... Matt Ryan seemed to always give us fits. I just have a tough time seeing Mariota string together enough plays in the air like Matt did.
Not saying this because they are a rival... i legit have a hard time finding more than 5 wins for that team. On paper, worst roster in the league.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 1:17 am
Posted on 8/4/22 at 1:46 am to Sauce Castieaux
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Not saying this because they are a rival... i legit have a hard time finding more than 5 wins for that team. On paper, worst roster in the league.
Agree but Saints have always started slow and I don't see that changing. Mariota beat Winston in the Rose Bowl so those 2 have faced each other before. I know they aren't going against each other but this is one game. We'll beat them at home for sure unless we're injured. I see a 3pt game either way in week 1. I'd like to see Winston throw 5tds like he did vs GB but we'll see.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:44 am to saintsfan1977
Personally, I think the Falcons will suck hard this year.
We may not blow them out in week 1, but I don't think it will be a close game in the end.
We may not blow them out in week 1, but I don't think it will be a close game in the end.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 8:07 am to saintsfan1977
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Saints have always started slow and I don't see that changing.
We blew the doors off of Green Bay in our first game last year and were 5-2 and beat 3 playoff teams before Winston got hurt.
Now I will say we play down to our competition as we lost to the Panthers and Giants last year. But we are 9-5 in September since 2018.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:06 am to GMoney2600
So what’s wrong with Turner now?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:38 am to Ed Osteen
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So what’s wrong with Turner now?
Yeah, his injury has been really vague. I really want to see Turner, Davenport, Cam, and Granderson all fully healthy for at least 1 game to see how they use them all.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 1:50 pm to Hot Carl
Good luck with that ever happening lol
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