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re: Reggie Bush gives back Heisman Trophy

Posted on 9/15/10 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by LSUsaintsfanla
NOLA
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Posted on 9/15/10 at 1:08 pm to
How much you want to bet Peterson has some flashy new car before the seasons over with. Just like Jamarcus got. Don't be naive. Every elite football player in college does
Posted by TigersInExile
OhioTiger
Member since Nov 2008
901 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 1:50 pm to
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How much you want to bet Peterson has some flashy new car before the seasons over with. Just like Jamarcus got. Don't be naive. Every elite football player in college does

Bull. There are still individuals raised by parents to understand - and embrace - the meaning of things like right/wrong and a little concept called deferred gratification.

I don't know how JaMarcus got his wheels and neither do you beyond your broad speculations. You got proof, let's have it! Otherwise, well...

Casting a blanket defamatory allegation of cheating upon the integrity every collegiate star athlete, including those who choose to play by the rules by deferring financial gratification, doesn't make it so. It just reveals a whole lot about you.

Maligning the integrity and character of LSU's Patrick Peterson without a shred of evidence simply because he is a star athlete with a bright NFL future is reprehensible. Yep, we have learned a lot about you.
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 2:20 pm to
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i wonder who wrote the statement for him. I think some greed by others have stolen what he worked so hard for away.


Reggies own actions have cost him the heisman. And made him millions of dollars in the NFL.
Posted by LSUsaintsfanla
NOLA
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Posted on 9/15/10 at 2:40 pm to
Or you could just be naive. Yep we've learned a lot about you as well. Does every single player do it no. Do most you bet your arse. Jamarcus russels family was poor as dirt and middle junior year he has a brand new escalade. Bc poor people without a job usually drive Brand new modified escalades. It happens man. There's a lot I do know for fact about a certain program because of who a good family friend is. And people who know me on this board know who I'm talking about. If you knew half of anything you wouldn't attempt to be a smug naive person and accept facts. My uncle is a major booster to another major college program not in the SEC. What he does and his colleagues do is nothing short of surprising. It happens. It's a fact. Do I know for a fact Patrick Peterson will get a new car, no, would I bet on it, absolutely.
This post was edited on 9/15/10 at 2:44 pm
Posted by TigersInExile
OhioTiger
Member since Nov 2008
901 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 4:44 pm to
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Or you could just be naive. Yep we've learned a lot about you as well.

Oh, I see you're unaware that banks make loans based on future earnings (although that may not be what happened in JaMarcus' case - point being, I don't know and you darn sure don't know except to engage in stereotyping because he grew up less privileged than some other folks).

Mama Lebron James cut enough of a loan (as Lebron was still in his final high school semester) based on his future earnings to use a pinch of it to buy him a fully tricked out Hummer.

But you knew you could borrow against future earnings, right? Cause you're not naive or ...
Posted by TigersInExile
OhioTiger
Member since Nov 2008
901 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 4:46 pm to
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My uncle is a major booster to another major college program not in the SEC. What he does and his colleagues do is nothing short of surprising.

That's swell, since both I - a clinical and research psychologist - and my neurosurgeon spouse contribute rather heavily to our respective alma mater, too. Guess which school?

...and, no, we don't break NCAA rules where student athletes are concerned.
This post was edited on 9/15/10 at 4:47 pm
Posted by LSUsaintsfanla
NOLA
Member since Dec 2006
10956 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 5:06 pm to
Well maybe because your field and career is built on bullshite. And you and your wifes income don't touch my uncles. Sorry. And neither the other person I'm talking about. But you do make significantly more than me fwiw.
Posted by LSUsaintsfanla
NOLA
Member since Dec 2006
10956 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 5:08 pm to
Yeah I so know that but if I'm bot mistaken I think it's sill against NCAA rules. And a lot of this is from agents and the scum they re
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17581 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 7:24 pm to
I believe this was a heavy burden on Reggies back since being in N.O. He knew he did wrong, and so did Pete Carroll and probably a few more coaches. Hopefully being behind him now he can focus on playing better and helping the team winning another super bowl.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37919 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:18 pm to
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believe this was a heavy burden on Reggies back since being in N.O. He knew he did wrong, and so did Pete Carroll and probably a few more coaches. Hopefully being behind him now he can focus on playing better and helping the team winning another super bowl.


Blee dat.
Posted by ElleshooTGR
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2007
2848 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 6:42 am to
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Class move, making a positive out of a negative
Agreed
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
33232 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 7:32 am to
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Class move, making a positive out of a negative. Good for you Reggie


Was going to say exactly this. After all of the talk a few years ago about not being a team player and going out to cali to practice in the off season. The guy voluntarily gives up the most prestigious award in college football to avoid the situation from becoming a distraction to the team.

Now go and run wild on the 9ers on Monday night.

This post was edited on 9/16/10 at 1:50 pm
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22178 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 8:04 am to
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Not to mention the only people thinkng of punishing Bush is the Heisman Trust not the NCAA


How would the NCAA punish him? He's not in college anymore.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22178 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 8:08 am to
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Reggie has been punished by exactly zero people or institutions. USC has clearly received the majority of blame/punishment.


I didn't say he had been punished. I'm saying it's been all eyes on him for 5 years now like he's freakin' Tony Soprano. It's all been about Reggie, what did Reggie do, what happened Reggie? If you think Reggie was the only one on that USC team to "benefit", you are dead wrong. He's absorbing the impact of this ordeal because he's the most high profile. I'm not saying he wanted to or that's it honorable to give back the trophy. He just wants to be done with it IMO. He's obviously skated around the issue the entire time knowing full well he and his folks got "gifts". USC knew it too. My point is they had tunnel vision for Reggie. If the NCAA really wanted to they could probably declare 50% of that team ineligible if they dug deep enough.
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 9/16/10 at 8:59 am to
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How would the NCAA punish him? He's not in college anymore.


Exactly my point but look through this thread and ones on the MSB and see how many times it gets mentioned that the NCAA should pay their athletes, so Reggie should not have to give the Heisman back.

As if the 2 issues were related and not controlled by 2 different organizations.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22178 posts
Posted on 9/17/10 at 6:20 am to
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Exactly my point but look through this thread and ones on the MSB and see how many times it gets mentioned that the NCAA should pay their athletes, so Reggie should not have to give the Heisman back.

As if the 2 issues were related and not controlled by 2 different organizations.


Ahh. I had not read those.

I don't think they should "pay" their athletes per se, but I don't think they are far too strict. There's a limit to how much money a kid can make, even if it is legit. If someone attends USC on a musical scholarship for example, they don't monitor how much money they earn. Why athletes?

Considering the massive amounts the schools make off these kid's skills and likenesses, I think in addition to schollies, they should set up some type of trust for them when they get out of school. This would likely benefit those who don't go the NFL the most. You know, the 98% who don't turn pro and nobody cares about. Evenly divide it amongst each GRADUATING class each year. That would also be an added benefit to get a degree. Let's face it, those who don't graduate typically either go pro, transfer, leave/kicked off the team for a number reasons. That way all the millions on top of millions of $$ these kids generate for the school will assist them later. That way when they finish college, they can have a degree AND some money to start life with so they don't do like many people and start off on the wrong in tons and tons of debt.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31326 posts
Posted on 9/19/10 at 6:57 pm to
It's the right thing to do. Cheaters have no business keeping trophies.
Posted by cosmicdingo
Springhill, La.
Member since Mar 2006
2173 posts
Posted on 9/20/10 at 9:53 am to
Best way to make the issue go away. Smart move on his part.
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