re: Other than passing yards, what make Brees an "Elite QB"

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Brees should have enough command of this system to make adjustments on the fly. Has he forgotten what was successful in the past or forgotten how to make the correct audibles?

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His job to execute the OC's gameplan, not make a gameplan and audible every play. Its a sad truth.

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Still he has to make better decisions in those tough situations. He forcing things, for example the pick in the redzone this weekend. That was points given away... I think it is a confidence issue right now.

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I agree with this. His decision making and confidence really is tied with Payton. They share a interesting hive mind dynamic.

Most of our problems come exactly from this:

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the vacancy of Payton. I think Carmichael and Kromer are stooges.

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SINCE BREES JOINED THE SAINTS IN 2006..

THEY ARE THE WINNINGEST TEAM..

IN
THE
ENTIRE
frickING
NFL

YOU STUPID

frickING

shite

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Dude, I understand some stuff you are saying but you need to go do some research. Brady has also been in the Super Bowl 5 of the last 10 years and has the second highest winning percentage of active qbs behind P.Manning. No one is saying Brees is terrible.

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No one is saying Brees is terrible.

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at least someone understands..

I didn't mean to offend you bro, just thought I could offer some things to what was meant to be a discussion but turned into a bloodbath. I think he could do some more stuff at the line, basically say frick Carmichael. I think he probably understands the game more than Carmichael. I compare it to pitching coaches telling Greg Maddox what to do, he knows what to do but might not be aware of other variables in play. Carmichael should be there to observe wrongdoings and make sure Brees is aware of them, not try and take the reigns.

you know what makes Brees elite?

he's comes up big in big time games.

plus i just remembered he set the completion percentage record as well. add that to the list.

think of all the big time games he's been in and just trounced teams or out dueled other upper tier qbs. think back to all the good times.. the time we embarrassed the cowgirls.. the time the packers came to the dome and just got their asses handed to them. does anyone even remember this? think back to the time the pats came to the dome.. and us beating the steelers at home i believe on halloween night.. think of all the victories against atlanta since 06. good stuff.

now there were let down years here and there.. but that doesn't mean he isn't elite and this team won't be back soon enough. if this season continues to plummet i expect another 2006 type of atmosphere where payton comes in and doesn't put up with anyones BS.. and turns it right back around.. proving he's one of the best.

check this wiki ish out

he's been a probowler 5 out of the 6 years he's been a saint. 2x nfl offensive poy, 3x for the nfc.

he is the All-time single season passing yard leader (5,476) (think about that.. ALL time..)

Fastest ever to reach 40,000 yards passing

Took a 3 win franchise to the NFC Championship game in his first season with the team.. all the while coming off a shoulder injury in which no one trusted him.

Just read this shite

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Brees has been selected to the Pro Bowl six times in his career – with the Chargers in 2004 and the Saints in 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011. He was the NFL's Comeback Player of the Year in 2004, the National Football League Offensive Player of the Year in 2008 & 2011, and the MVP of Super Bowl XLIV. During his Super Bowl victory in 2009, Brees tied a record for most completions in a Super Bowl with 32 (Super Bowl XLIV; tied with Tom Brady). Brees is the only quarterback in NFL history to reach 400+ yards passing in consecutive playoff games, which he has done in three straight postseason games (2010 vs. Seattle; 2011 vs. Detroit; 2011 vs. San Francisco). He was also selected by voters to appear on the cover of EA Sports' Madden NFL 11.[2] Sports Illustrated named him as its 2010 Sportsman of the Year.[3]

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Dude even beat the Madden Curse. Plus Madden doesn't put you on the cover unless you are Elite.

You remember the infamous Drew Brees Sports Science video right? That shite was good times as well. He beat an olympic archer in accuracy for crying out loud.

It's redonkulous.

Don't you remember Steve Young calling Brees' it's like a form of art or poetry or some other high praise on all those MNF games.

Gruden calls him a surgeon.


Look at this incredible stuff.

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New Orleans Saints

After the Chargers refused to increase their offer, Brees met with other teams. The New Orleans Saints and the Miami Dolphins were interested. New Orleans made an offer that included $10 million in guaranteed money the first year and a $12 million option the second year. Miami was unsure if Brees' shoulder was completely healed and doctors suggested the team not sign him because of the injury.[16] The Dolphins ended negotiations and traded for Minnesota Vikings QB Daunte Culpepper instead. Brees signed a 6-year, $60 million deal with the Saints on March 14, 2006.
2006

Brees had a productive first year with the Saints. The team, under first-year head coach Sean Payton, rebounded from its disastrous 2005 season (when the team was unable to play in New Orleans due to the damage caused by Hurricane Katrina and struggled to a 3–13 record) to finish with a 10–6 regular season record and won the NFC South division title. Brees threw a league-leading 4,418 passing yards, finished third in the league with 26 touchdown passes and 11 interceptions and a 96.2 passer rating. Brees was named starting quarterback for the NFC in the 2007 Pro Bowl. On January 5, 2007, Brees was named first runner-up behind former teammate Tomlinson for league MVP by the Associated Press. Brees and Tomlinson were co-recipients of the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award.

On January 13, 2007, in his first playoff game for New Orleans, Brees was 20–32 in passing attempts with 1 touchdown and no interceptions against the Philadelphia Eagles in the Louisiana Superdome. The Saints held on to win 27–24, and advanced to the franchise's first NFC Championship Game against the Chicago Bears. Though he completed 27 of 49 passes for 354 yards against the Chicago Bears, and two touchdowns, Brees committed three costly turnovers, and was penalized for an intentional grounding in the endzone, resulting in a safety, as the Saints lost 39–14.[17] Brees then dislocated his left elbow during the first quarter of the Pro Bowl.
2007

The following season Brees passed for 4423 yards and tied a then team record with 28 touchdowns. He also set the NFL record previously held by Rich Gannon for pass completions in a single season with 440. However, the Saints missed the playoffs.
2008
New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees completing a pass against the Washington Redskins.

In 2008, the Saints again missed the playoffs but Brees had a strong year statistically, finishing 15 yards short of the NFL record for passing yards thrown in a single season set by Dan Marino in 1984. He finished the season with 5,069 yards and became the second quarterback in NFL history to throw for over 5,000 yards in a season.[18] He passed for 300 yards ten times during the season, tying Rich Gannon's 2002 record. He was named FedEx Air Player of the Week for his performances during weeks 8 and 12 and was named the AP 2008 Offensive Player of the Year.[19]
2009 Super Bowl Season

In the first game of the 2009 season against the Detroit Lions, Brees set a career-high and franchise-tying record with six touchdown passes, (NFL record for opening week) going 26/34 for 358 yards. The next week, Brees led the Saints to a 48–22 win over the Philadelphia Eagles, throwing for 311 yards and three touchdown passes. Brees also tied the record for most touchdown passes by the end of week 2 with 9. In week 6 against the 5–0 New York Giants, Brees completed 23 of 30 passes for 369 yards, 4 touchdown passes and a passer rating of 156.8 in a dominant 48–27 victory.

In week 7, Brees led a dramatic comeback victory on the road against the Miami Dolphins, 46–34. The Saints quickly faced a 24–3 deficit in the second quarter, trailing for the first time all season at that point, and failing to score on their first possession as they had in all of their previous contests. Brees had a poor outing, but provided two crucial rushing touchdowns, one just before halftime to narrow the deficit to 24–10, and one in the third quarter to give the Saints their first lead of the game, 37–34.

The next week, Brees threw for 308 yards on 25 of 33 passing along with two touchdowns and one interception in leading the Saints to a 35–27 victory and franchise tying best start at 7–0 against the rival Atlanta Falcons. In week 9, Brees helped guide the team to a 30–20 victory over the Carolina Panthers. This would be Drew's first victory over the Carolina Panthers in the Superdome and gave the Saints their best ever start in franchise history at 8–0. In week 12, Brees led the Saints to an 11–0 record, defeating the New England Patriots 38–17 on Monday Night Football. Drew Brees totaled 371 yards passing, posting a perfect passer rating of 158.3, and is the only person to throw for five touchdowns against a team coached by Bill Belichick. After close victories over the Washington Redskins and Falcons in successive weeks to start 13–0, Brees and the Saints lost their first game of the season to the Dallas Cowboys, 24–17, after DeMarcus Ware caused a Brees fumble in the final seconds, ending a fourth quarter rally. The Saints then lost their last two games, with Brees sitting out the week 17 finale against Carolina. Their 13–3 record secured the #1 seed in the NFC.

Brees' individual statistics led to numerous accolades,[20] including a Pro Bowl selection, the Maxwell Football Club's Bert Bell Award, and runner-up in voting for the AP MVP, Offensive Player of the Year, and All-Pro awards. He finished the season with a completion percentage of 70.62, establishing a new NFL record.[21][22]

In the divisional round of the playoffs, the Saints routed the Arizona Cardinals 45–14 to advance to the NFC Championship, where they defeated the Minnesota Vikings 31–28 in overtime. Brees completed 17 of 31 passes for 197 yards and 3 touchdowns.

The underdog Saints defeated the Indianapolis Colts 31–17 in Super Bowl XLIV on February 7, 2010. Brees tied a Super Bowl record with 32 pass completions and won the Super Bowl Most Valuable Player Award. He threw for 288 yards and 2 touchdowns. It was the first league championship in Saints franchise history.[23] Brees was named the 2010 Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year, both for his winning the Super Bowl and his charitable work towards the reconstruction of New Orleans. On December 17, 2010, he was named AP Male Athlete of the Year.

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you know, I was in Denver for some of Elway's "rough" years.


Brees has nothing on those seasons yet. Has Drew played great??? nope but it doesn't seem like he has had much help.


this is a team sport OP. Takes a team to win. So while #9 might not be what he was last year, the other 21 ain't really shite right now....


again it's a TEAM sport

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