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re: NFL.com's Chad Reuter Mock Draft
Posted on 3/30/17 at 7:55 pm to rmnldr
Posted on 3/30/17 at 7:55 pm to rmnldr
You're full of shite.
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Despite talent and traits, production and overall play has been uneven at Michigan. Earned full-time starting nod in just his final season. Needs more weight-room work. Consistency of anchor at point of attack in question. Can be rooted out of his gap by power. Can do better job of using his length to keep blockers off of him. Doesn't make enough plays on other side of the line against run. Needs to show a nastier play demeanor at all times. Scouts question whether he has enough toughness for trench battles if bumped inside or to 5-technique. Held back by his inconsistent play speed. Excessive leaning and narrowing of his base during the play causes balance and footwork inconsistencies. Needs better readiness to take on move blockers.
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 7:55 pm to NamariTiger
All in all Looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane is what I read.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:00 pm to NamariTiger
Yeah I'm really not getting the line that Taco is better against the run than Barnett. Barnett is far better there.
BUT in the nfl that could change as Taco has size and length to be better against the run. But as it stands now Barnett is the more complete player.
BUT in the nfl that could change as Taco has size and length to be better against the run. But as it stands now Barnett is the more complete player.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:00 pm to Chad504boy
Yeah, how about we go back & draft your boy Randy Gregory who you were infatuated with in 2015 since you are so keen in locating future All Pro edge rushers.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:02 pm to BigBrod81
I've come to the realization that Chad is the worst. I'm fine with that it's just who he is.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:02 pm to NamariTiger
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You're full of shite.
You watch the fricking tape before calling me full of shite.
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Despite talent and traits, production and overall play has been uneven at Michigan.
sure
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Needs more weight-room work.
bullshite
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Consistency of anchor at point of attack in question.
This can be said about literally every DE in this draft except Malik McDowell
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Can be rooted out of his gap by power.
Same for every DL. If they over power you they win. Brilliant analysis.
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Can do better job of using his length to keep blockers off of him
So can literally every DE.
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Doesn't make enough plays on other side of the line against run.
How many is enough? This can also be said for every DE in this draft.
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Needs to show a nastier play demeanor at all times.
Disagree. He's fine.
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Scouts question whether he has enough toughness for trench battles if bumped inside or to 5-technique.
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Held back by his inconsistent play speed.
Disagree.
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Excessive leaning and narrowing of his base during the play causes balance and footwork inconsistencies.
Disagree
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Needs better readiness to take on move blockers.
Same for every DE.
I like how you just copy and pasted the negatives for him.
This is cookie cutter shite that can be said about every fricking DE in this draft.
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All in all Looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane is what I read.
You must've heard this from Hellen Keller
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:03 pm to rmnldr
I posted the negatives you dumbass because it's everything you labeled as a strength for him. I'll take NFL scouts over your opinion.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:05 pm to Chad504boy
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Barnett is much more one dimensional
Barnett had more career sacks & TFL than you can shake a stick at but he is one dimensional.
The draft needs to hurry up & get here asap because the lull between the combine & draft itself causes some to lose brain cells.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:05 pm to bonethug0108
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Yeah I'm really not getting the line that Taco is better against the run than Barnett. Barnett is far better there.
At best (in favor of Barnett) it's a wash.
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But as it stands now Barnett is the more complete player.
No... just no... Barnett has nothing except a speed rush. If Barnett doesn't beat a tackle by speed there's no way he's winning. He doesn't shed blocks and often gets blocked down field or at least taken out of the play by tackles.
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I posted the negatives you dumbass because it's everything you labeled as a strength for him. I'll take NFL scouts over your opinion.
Every DE in this draft must have those exact same negatives then.
The real negatives for Taco are his lack of consistent pass rush moves, his inconsistent get-off, and he's not a quick twitch player. Those are real negatives. Not some bullshite about how he doesn't tackle the ball carrier enough on the backside of plays. He's fine at the point of attack. He's fine in run defense.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:08 pm to rmnldr
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Barnett has nothing except a speed rush
His bullrush is better than any player in this draft. So is his hand usage. Try again.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:09 pm to BigBrod81
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His bullrush is better than any player in this draft. So is hand usage. Try again.
His bull rush is from speed. He turns the speed into power. He lacks natural power to shove a guy back without a running start. His hand usage is also nothing special.
ETA: Show me a clip where Barnett is pushing linemen back on a run play.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:11 pm to rmnldr
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His bull rush is from speed. He turns the speed into power. He lacks natural power to shove a guy back without a running start. His hand usage is also nothing special.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:12 pm to BigBrod81
You and Chad are batting 0 for in this thread (minus the point about Taco's length and size) where it comes to evaluating the two.
EVERYONE says Barnett is the better run defender and that Taco is a one dimensional inconsistent pass rusher.
And Barnett is not a "speed" rusher. He beats people with elite bend AND hands. His issue is his move repertoire and his lack of elite speed for a rusher.
EVERYONE says Barnett is the better run defender and that Taco is a one dimensional inconsistent pass rusher.
And Barnett is not a "speed" rusher. He beats people with elite bend AND hands. His issue is his move repertoire and his lack of elite speed for a rusher.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:14 pm to bonethug0108
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You and Chad are batting 0 for in this thread (minus the point about Taco's length and size) where it comes to evaluating the two.
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EVERYONE says Barnett is the better run defender and that Taco is a one dimensional inconsistent pass rusher.
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And Barnett is not a "speed" rusher. He beats people with elite bend AND hands. His issue is his move repertoire.
Just like Sheldon Rankins was Aaron Donald 2.0...
frick it. There's no use.
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BigBrod81
You're an LSU fan. When you see Arden Key bull rush do you think it's because he's naturally strong? He's very very quick and translates that into power.
Ever wonder how he holds up on the edge when he's so small? It's because his hand placement is often impeccable.
Barnett isn't stronger than Taco. He's average at best. His hand placement is severely lacking. I don't know where the frick you & all of these scouts come up with this shite.
He has 1 consistent move in pass rush and that's a swipe move. If that's your idea of good "hand usage" then you're a fricking idiot.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:14 pm to BigBrod81
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His bull rush is from speed. He turns the speed into power. He lacks natural power to shove a guy back without a running start. His hand usage is also nothing special
What the actual frick. I feel stupid for arguing with you. Have you ever taken a physics class..... . Just stop posting please.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:17 pm to NamariTiger
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What the actual frick. I feel stupid for arguing with you. Have you ever taken a physics class..... . Just stop posting please.
Mass * velocity = magnitude of momentum
I feel like I'm arguing with idiots.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:18 pm to bonethug0108
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EVERYONE says Barnett is the better run defender and that Taco is a one dimensional inconsistent pass rusher.
And Barnett is not a "speed" rusher. He beats people with elite bend AND hands. His issue is his move repertoire and he lack of elite speed for a rusher.
This IS what I've been saying the entire time. The only top player in this draft with better bend than Barnett is Myles Garrett. Barnett's hands are phenomenal which he uses to make up for not being as quick as some other guys. The talk of Barnett's bullrush depending upon speed is pure bullshite.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:20 pm to BigBrod81
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The only top player in this draft with better bend than Barnett is Myles Garrett.
Malik McDowell
TJ Watt
just to name two better than Barnett
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Barnett's hands are phenomenal which he uses to make up for not being as quick as some other guys.
bullshite.
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The talk of Barnett's bullrush depending upon speed is pure bullshite.
Do you even understand what a bullrush is???
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:21 pm to BigBrod81
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Barnett is much more one dimensional
False. I don't know why people keep spouting off this bullshite about Taco being a good run defender. He's not. That's one of his weaknesses. He's a far better pass rusher than run defender and almost every scout article I've read about him says that. All it takes is a quick google search.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:21 pm to WicKed WayZ
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False. I don't know why people keep spouting off this bullshite about Taco being a good run defender. He's not. That's one of his weaknesses. He's a far better pass rusher than run defender and almost every scout article I've read about him says that. All it takes is a quick google search.
And the tape says the complete opposite. Go watch literally any tape of him.
FWIW I've already addressed his issue of "chasing the ball carrier before beating the blocker"
That's his one problem in run defense
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 8:24 pm
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