re: Lifelong Saints fan...

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Their defense is based on speed... same as our offense. Not good. Their offense is based on beating the blitz... our defense is based on blitzing. Again, not good.

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Here's another dreaded stat--our offense is based on gaining yards to score points, their defense is based on reducing the amount of yards and points allowed. frick!

You post A LOT! And your avatar scares me.

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I know this topic has been hammered to death, but you guys are overwhelmingly sensitive. The media's been up NO's arse all year. No respect? Hell, I can't even count how many times I saw the Sunday pre-game show go 8/8 in picking the Saints. Why do you care, anyway? Guys... keep in mind that they aren't talking about YOU. Am I the only one who finds it funny when people get offended by these things?

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Really? You still feel that way now since the playoffs or what? Surely you aspired to learn a lesson or two.

Charisma, we get it. You're so smart and want to engage in a civilized discussion, blah blah blah.

You accuse other posters of cherry picking statistics, but the only thing you're leaning on is that both offenses are "virtually the same", but Saints D is "beyond inconsistent". Fine that's how you think, but I just don't see it. Here's my take on this game:


-Saints offense is ranked 1st this season, with the Colts 9th. Saints put up 32 points per game compared to the 26 per by the Colts. Advantage Saints.

-The Saints average 132 yards per game rushing. The Colts only average 80. EIGHTY. This is HUGE for clock management and keeping Manning off the field. Advantage Saints.

-The Colts are ranked 2nd in passing this year and the Saints are 4th, only separated by 10 yards per game. I don't think that's enough to give an advantage to the Colts. So, I call that a push, and I love that we have a massive advantage rushing the ball.

-The Colts offensive line is ranked 1st this year and the Saints are 4th. Both teams protect the QB and protect against the blitz very well. I call that a push.

In respect our defense the you keep calling "inconsistent":

-Saints D is ranked 25th in the league, behind the Colts 18th ranking. It's not that big of a difference though. Saints D only gives up 2 more points per game than the Colts. Two. I call that a push.

-Both teams give up virtually the same yardage to the run, and I will submit that the Saints give up about 30 more yards through the air per game, but stated above, the Saints rush the ball much better than Indy. Also, as stated above, the Saints only give up 2 more points per game. I'll give the advantage to Indy, but just slightly.

-The Saints and Colts are separated by only one sack this season, BUT, we have 10 more interceptions than the Colts. We also cause and recover more fumbles than the Colts. These two defenses play different games, and I give the advantage to the Saints.

As far as special teams, the Saints are ranked MUCH higher than the Colts at kick returning and field goals. The Colts have had to punt more than the Saints as well. Good stuff. Advantage Saints.

So,

Obviously, I believe the Saints have the advantage and will win. I have hope, and I have FAITH.

The stats I pulled up for defense is pretty close. If you call the Saints inconsistent, what does that make the Colts? You call the offenses "virtually the same" but they're really not. We run much better. They pass a little bit better.

Even if the Saint's "inconsistent" D shows up, I would hope that our offense will control the ball and the clock, minimizing Manning's time against our defense. When Manning has the ball, I will be worried, but I hope that we will get him on the ground like we did Favre and get him uncomfortable in the pocket.


That's all I got. It's dinner time.

Saints 37, Colts 31 ? Sounds good to me.

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1. You are not a fan of the Saints. "Fan" the word is short for the word "fanatic", as most people know. Do you even know what fanatic means? It's defined as someone who has uncritical and extreme enthusiasm, a zeal for (insert noun here). Even if you use the slang version from 1885, it's still wrong. I definitely would not call you an enthusiastic devotee. You don't even fit the damn synonyms for either term, either the slang or the term "fanatic". It's completely wrong what you're stating. You are not a "fan", you're a casual follower, and there's nothing wrong with that. Just don't come on here stating that you're a lifelong "fan" and try to pull the wool over.

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haha, what the hell... in order to be a fan, I have to literally think the Saints will win every game? I have to make this prediction in order to have zeal? Come on... you're full of it.


You're telling me you've never thought the Saints were going to lose a game? Ever??? bullshite. You, my friend, are full of shite.

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you posted a new thread on a topic that you knew would get vehement rejection and an uproar.

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As you can see by my post count, I'm new here. And if it makes me stupid to think that you guys could handle being objective about a team you feel emotionally identified with... lol, my bad.

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you can't understand how to use English

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lol, ok. I guess I have no comprehension of the English language because I do not adhere to the 19th Century definition of "fanatic". I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that nowadays... people use it to refer in a general sense to people who root for a given team. Just a hunch.

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You are not a "fan", you're a casual follower

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Am I? Because I didn't sign on to put "who dat" in all caps followed by a series of emoticons and a picture of brees' face on hercules' body? OK... I'm a casual follower. If being a "fan" while avoiding being objective is what's necessary to be a "serious" follower, I think I'm happy where I'm at.

For someone who wants to be objective, you don't understand the English language.

Please, don't let the facts get in your way. I said you don't fit either, not just one. Get your facts straight...being a fan literally means being UNCRITICAL, or did you get that right? Call yourself what you want, but you aren't a fan.

As of right now, you're being a hypocrite.

I read your other posts. Apparently you hate tigerdroppings.com and wanted to make it known how much you hated it. The disdain is obvious.

I'll now let you continue to look like an idiot. I can't wait to see what moronic fallacies you decided to conceptualize next.

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I don't care if you disagree, but some people are completely overreacting. Does nobody else think so?

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You care if people disagree. If you didn't care, you wouldn't argue your point. If you didn't care, you certainly wouldn't make a thread based off of it. If you didn't care, you wouldn't get so sensitive every time someone responds the way a fan of the Saints would most likely respond. You're getting knee jerk reactions because you don't understand what the word "fan" means, and you wonder why people on this board can't be "objective".

I told you why, in essence, and you still don't get it. If you think you're going to have a great time talking objectivity to fans, you might want to consider....well, being objective.

I guess what I'm saying is quit while you're behind, because you aren't going to hear what you want to hear, and I'm afraid you're just going to get angry and/or disappointed.

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You care if people disagree. If you didn't care, you wouldn't argue your point. If you didn't care, you certainly wouldn't make a thread based off of it.

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I enjoy debate, but it does not bother me if people disagree with me. Now, on the other hand, you've gone as far as to call me a bad person. I think it bothers you just a tad. And I didn't base a thread on people disagreeing with me. I was interested in how people felt about a Saints fan being able to admit that he/she feels that it's a close call, but gives a slight edge to the Colts. I got my answer.

You feel a little like and a touch of capped off with a pasted picture containing a funny caption and topped with vulgar personal attacks. Gotcha.

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I told you why, in essence, and you still don't get it. If you think you're going to have a great time talking objectivity to fans, you might want to consider....well, being objective.

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How am I being subjective?

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you don't understand what the word "fan" means

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I guess we have different definitions. You are rolling with the 19th Century definition that did not pertain to sports, and I'm just going by the common usage of the word today.



Answer this question: why does this anger you so much? Don't you think it's a little irrational to get this bent out of shape over what some stranger on the internet predicts the outcome of the SuperBowl will be?

I don't take offense or get angry about it. I just think you're a flamer or an alter looking to stir shite. Just my take.