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re: Having a qb is the easiest way to win big in the nfl

Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12378 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:02 pm to
I thought the whole point was he isn't an elite qb. He's a good qb that must have a great supporting cast.
Posted by VictoryHill
Watson, LA
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

I thought the whole point was he isn't an elite qb. He's a good qb that must have a great supporting cast.

You said he wasn't able to carry a team like Mahomes and Burrow. When pressed to explain, you could only muster that Hurts had a jump in passer rating after the Eagles added a true WR1.

Did you know that when the Bengals added Chase, Burrow's passer rating took a larger jump than Hurts's did with AJ Brown?

What now, smart guy?
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22800 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

If you had your pick at any qb in the nfl, where would you pick him?


Mahomes
Burrow
Allen
Hurts
Rodgers
Herbert
Lawrence

Now your turn.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12378 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:13 pm to
We just disagree. I think hurts is a good qb, but not even close to elite. He's a hell of a lot better than what we have though
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12378 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:16 pm to
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Herbert
Lawrence
Jackson
Rodgers
Tua (if health wasn't a concern)
Dak
Hurts
Posted by VictoryHill
Watson, LA
Member since Nov 2013
3252 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:16 pm to
I'm not saying he is or isn't "elite" - I'm just attacking your stupid rationale. You claim he's not elite based on passer rating after adding a guy, but a guy you claim is elite had a significantly larger jump in passer rating after adding a guy.

So your thinking isn't logical or consistent at all. If Hurts isn't elite, then neither is Burrow based on your own explanation.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12378 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:19 pm to
Burrow won a road playoff game missing what 2-3 starting olinemen last week? Burrow is a much better qb than hurts, and Sirianni would make that trade anytime
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22800 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:20 pm to
If Burrow wins tonight he’s #1. He’s a better QB than Allen. You can debate it if you want but you won’t convince anyone that Allen is better than Burrow except Bills fans.

And Dak above Hurts?
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12378 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:24 pm to
I think so. Dak doesn't have 2 great wrs like smith and brown. He has one in lamb. Dak is better career wise in QBR and passer rating.
Posted by VictoryHill
Watson, LA
Member since Nov 2013
3252 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:27 pm to
And Hurts is about to have his squad in the Super Bowl after leading them to the best record in the league despite missing 2 games (both of which they lost), while being near the top of every statistical category that matters (AY/A, TD%, INT%, 1st downs, total TD) during an MVP season.

Just say you don't like Hurts instead of trying to explain because you don't make any sense at all.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22800 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:28 pm to
Hurts is a winner. Dak is not. He chokes and plays scared very often. Makes really poor decisions in tough situations.

It’s not all about stats and QBRs.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12378 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:28 pm to
Hurts is a good qb. If hurts had Dallas', TB's, NYG's, or Seattle's team around him, he'd be home too
Posted by VictoryHill
Watson, LA
Member since Nov 2013
3252 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

Dak doesn't have 2 great wrs like smith and brown.

Dak had Amari Cooper and CeeDee Lamb just last season.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12378 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:33 pm to
And his passer rating was 104; hurts is 101
this year. Both are only as good as their supporting cast.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22800 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

Hurts is a good qb. If hurts had Dallas', TB's, NYG's, or Seattle's team around him, he'd be home too



Oh boy. You’re out of arguments.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12378 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:34 pm to
SF can't even throw a forward pass right now.
Posted by VictoryHill
Watson, LA
Member since Nov 2013
3252 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:35 pm to
Playing QB is more than just passer rating. You don't get to just totally discount Hurts had as many rushing TD as Derrick Henry.

Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12378 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:37 pm to
I agree. Hurts is a great runner.
Posted by VictoryHill
Watson, LA
Member since Nov 2013
3252 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:47 pm to
I just realized you're the guy who tried to say Hendon Hooker was a good NFL prospect because of collegiate passer rating. Logic and context completely elude you. I'm not wasting my time on you anymore. Clown.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 4:49 pm
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12378 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 4:52 pm to
Man, I'm devastated that some random dude on the internet called me a clown.
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