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Dezmin Lewis - Potential mid round WR?

Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:08 pm
I think everyone knows we need another receiver. I've seen a lot of posts saying no to smaller receivers and that we need to draft a big WR. What does the board think of taking Dezmin Lewis in the 3rd or 4th? Small school prospect who did well at the Senior Bowl. Most of the criticisms are that he didn't face tough competition in college.

6'4" 214lbs
4.46 40 yard dash
Central Arkansas


Pro Day Results

40-yard dash: 4.46 seconds
Vertical jump: 37 inches
Broad jump: 10 feet, 4 inches

COMBINE STATS
40-yard dash: 4.58 SEC
Bench Press: 16 REPS
Vertical Jump: 33.5 INCH
Broad Jump: 119.0 INCH
3 Cone Drill: 7.11 SEC
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.28 SEC
60 Yard Shuttle: 11.63 SEC

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Strengths
Good height and overall size. High points and uses his length. Good forward lean into routes and gets cornerbacks to open up before breaking routes off. Uses same route pace for verticals and stick routes. Long-armed hands-catcher who extends to snatch ball early and get upfield. Satisfactory speed and foot quickness for his size. Weak-armed quarterback forced him to learn to work back to the throw. Tracks the ball well over his shoulder.

Weaknesses
Overwhelmed smaller competition at cornerback. Level of competition will be questioned. Too reliant on length downfield and doesn't display consistent leaping ability. Allowed cornerbacks to challenge and deflect throws rather than going up over them. Ran only a few basic routes. Scouts showing some concern over toughness, noting willingness to run out of bounds rather than finishing runs after catch.

I wouldn't read too much into the toughness comment. Watched a little film and he put the shoulder down on a few plays. Also ran some reverses for Central ArKansas into the teeth of the defense.

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College Stats

2014: 64 catches, 945 yards, 9 TDs, 14.8 avg.
2013: 50 catches, 721 yards, 7 TDs, 14.4 avg.
2012: 56 catches, 616 yards, 6 TDs, 11.0 avg.
2011: 27 catches, 386 yards, 2 TDs, 14.3 avg.
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:28 pm to
sounds kinda like a Saintish pick. More...

STRENGTHS: Sports an athletic frame with good muscular development in his upper body. Savvy route-runner who varies his release and gait to create slivers of separation. Soft, natural hands to pluck the ball outside of his frame. Good awareness to avoid the first defender after the catch, showing some wiggle and a burst. Good recognition of the sideline to get a foot down in bounds. Smooth accelerator, though his top-end speed is a question. Good awareness as a downfield blocker, though he could show greater physicality in this area.
WEAKNESSES: Lacks explosiveness as a runner and leaper. Relies on deception to sneak deep rather than possessing the top-end speed to challenge over the top. Doesn't consistently use his size to his advantage, mistiming his leaps and pestering rather than controlling opponents as a downfield blocker. Lacks the shiftiness and acceleration to generate much yardage after the catch and does not have the speed to pull away.

The Good
Lewis possesses an NFL frame. He is a big, physical target with a wide catch radius. Lewis has long arms (32 6/8”), and catches with his hands and is not a body catcher. He attacks the football and loves to dominate opposing cornerbacks with his physicality. He knows how to time and attack the football at its highpoint and use his size to his advantage

The Bad
Lewis is not overly quick or elusive. Has build-up type of speed. His routes could be a lot crisper and he tends to round into his cuts instead of making a jolting motion to get separation. He dominated small school competition, although he did prove himself at the Senior Bowl against some of the best in the nation. He does not always look the ball in leading to unnecessary drops and he often relies too much on his size.
Posted by locotiger
Dallas
Member since Jun 2008
3561 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:53 pm to
I got to see this kid play a few times this year. He is solid. I thought he was pretty good downfield blocker. Not that UCA ran the ball a ton this year, though.
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/18/15 at 1:56 pm to
Looks like a great prospect.


I like these two guys as mid round picks too.....

Deontay Greenberry
6-3 / 198 lbs. / 4.4~40 / 37" vert.





Highlight Reel
(Ignore the really shitty music)

STRENGTHS: Tall body type with long arms to extend and pluck. Has the frame to add bulk and continue to develop physically. Balanced athlete with good speed off the line of scrimmage and in/out of his breaks.

Physical after the catch with the tough mentality to break tackles, using his stiff arm to never go down easy. Fearless over the middle and did most of his damage at Houston working inside zones. Athletic ballskills to make tough grabs look easy, including a number of one-handed catches or opposite shoulder receptions that most cannot finish.

Natural acceleration after the catch to get up to top speed quickly and look to create as a ballcarrier. Flexible lower body to make sharp cuts and not slow down when changing directions. Lined up inside and outside in Houston's spread offense, but moved almost exclusively to the slot as a sophomore. Productive college career as a three-year starter with over 200 catches and eight 100-yard receiving performances.

WEAKNESSES: Leaner than ideal right now with skinny arms and little muscle definition. Indecisive and lackluster route-running and needs to show better urgency and movements.

Sluggish in his breaks and doesn't consistently use burst in his patterns, allowing defenders to dictate his path and not doing enough to fool defenders or create separation. Mostly free release at Houston and rarely challenged at the line of scrimmage - physicality at the line by NFL defenders will be a tough adjustment.

Will make highlight grabs, but drops too many easy ones and his streaky focus is a red flag. Needs to improve his recognition skills to read coverages and help out his quarterback, especially on blitzes and hot routes.

Underwhelming blocker and struggles to sustain with poor technique and awareness, often appearing disinterested in this area. Lack of aggressiveness and intensity shows up too much on tape and in several areas. Durability not a large concern, but did miss a game in 2013 with an ankle injury.

COMPARES TO: Marquess Wilson, Chicago Bears - Greenberry hasn't had the off-field issues that Wilson had, but in regards to their natural ability and football skill-sets, they were cut from a similar cloth: tall, lanky and athletic with the ability to make "wow" catches, but the inconsistencies have been too much to overcome.


Tre McBride
6-0 / 210 lbs / 4.4~40 / 38" vert





STRENGTHS: Solidly built throughout with an athletic frame and good muscle definition for the position. Adequate body strength to shake off arm tackles and run through contact. Smooth release and gets into his route quickly, showing the quarterback his numbers to present a good-sized target. Smooth athleticism and quickness out of his breaks with sharp footwork to gear up naturally. Gets good depth and takes advantage of coverages, hiding and selling his path. Nice job finding soft zones and has some shake after the catch. Excellent tracking skills, using his body to gain position and attack with his soft hands. Knows where the sticks are with terrific field awareness before and after the catch. Experienced lining up inside and outside. Extensive special teams experience as both a kick returner (23.1 average) and punt returner (11.1) over his career. Tough and intelligent on the field and off ? was recruited by Harvard for academics out of high school. Accountable and responsible personality, coming from a military family ? his father spent 25 years in the Army after playing running back at Northeastern. Leaves school ranked second in career catches (196), third in 100-yard receiving performances (eight) and fifth in career receiving yards (2,653).

WEAKNESSES: Not a twitchy athlete and lacks explosive start/stop traits. Speed is good-enough, but not a track star and won?t run away from most defenders at the next level ? not a consistent vertical threat. Doesn?t have the suddenness to routinely create separation and needs to improve the tempo in his stem to better stick his cuts. Uses his body well, but lacks ideal power at the position to routinely win contested 50/50 balls. Needs to improve his technique, effort and competitiveness as a blocker. Minor durability concerns, missing some playing time early in 2014 with an ankle injury. Lacks ideal experience against top competition playing at the FCS level.
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 2:10 pm to
I've had McBride pegged also

Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 2:14 pm to
Yeah but how big are his hands?!?!?!?!
Posted by Kankles
Member since Dec 2012
5914 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 2:29 pm to
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Weak-armed quarterback forced him to learn to work back to the throw.
He'll fit right in
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 3:32 pm to
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Weak-armed quarterback forced him to learn to work back to the throw.

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He'll fit right in


Aw, don't be like that!

Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32957 posts
Posted on 4/18/15 at 10:15 pm to
When is Greenberry projected to be taken?
Posted by OchoGregO
BR
Member since Jun 2009
232 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 1:12 am to
I like Lewis and Greenberrey. They seem like 4/5th round picks. It would be awesome if one would be available in the 5th and we could focus our early rounders on mostly defense
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:15 am to
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When is Greenberry projected to be taken?


5th-6th round.
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:16 am to
quote:

They seem like 4/5th round picks.


We Dont have a 4th round pick right now.
Posted by OchoGregO
BR
Member since Jun 2009
232 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 11:01 am to
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We Dont have a 4th round pick right now.
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Yes that's correct. I was just stating where I think they will be picked. Hopefully they slide to us
Posted by Isaid
Member since Nov 2011
743 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 11:33 am to
Im a Justin Hardy fan. Made a thread of him a few months ago. His production is off the charts.
Posted by 99DSTJ
K-Town
Member since Jun 2009
786 posts
Posted on 4/19/15 at 7:01 pm to
How about this guy in the 7th or UDFA.
Deandre Smelter, WR, Georgia Tech.
6'2" 226lbs 4.42/40. Probably have to sit out a year due to a torn acl in December.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 1:41 am to
Adrian Coxson

Florida recruit, father got ill moved to Maryland then staff was fired 23 kids transferred and that's why he ended up at Stony Brooks.

Hit a sub 4.3 (4.28) at recent workout. 6' 1? and 215 pounds

*** Sleeper ***
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 1:42 am
Posted by 99DSTJ
K-Town
Member since Jun 2009
786 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:36 am to
Nice find
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 10:59 am to
Don't mention it

This is why I am one of the best in the industry.

It's fun allowing you guys an insiders view on this part of the industry
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 11:01 am
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64199 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:33 am to
Wow the twos assessments of him battling corners completely contradict one another.
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