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re: Hawkins to Squadron
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:21 pm to shel311
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:21 pm to shel311
Yes after the outcome I could call it an
Error.but also could see what Willie thinking. Like switching Dyson in for Zion against jjj "late in game". And if we aren't counting highschool then it's 0 for me
Error.but also could see what Willie thinking. Like switching Dyson in for Zion against jjj "late in game". And if we aren't counting highschool then it's 0 for me
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:23 pm to NOSHAU
quote:What does that have to do with the fact that some nights we need more offense than defense?
The idea that Dyson gets minutes every night no matter what and Dyson gets DNPs most nights is way too lopsided at this point.
On nights that we need more offense/shooting as a focal point, do you think Dyson should get more minutes than Hawkins?
quote:I said situationally, not consistently.
but I would have a hard time consistently playing him over DD
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:24 pm to BradleyBadd
quote:So if any other poster calls out Willie for something, you think that's wrong because those posters haven't won as many titles as WIllie.
Yes after the outcome I could call it an
Error. Like switching Dyson in for Zion against jjj "late in game". And if we aren't counting highschool then it's 0 for me
But you're allowed to call out Willie for what you see as errors despite you not having as many titles as Willie.
Got it.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:26 pm to shel311
I have yet to get on here and call anyone on this team out like I know more
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:27 pm to shel311
quote:Now show me the depth on the Nuggets and players missing? He has played roughly the same amount of games as Hawkins this season but nearly 40% less minutes. So, is it "meaningful" because he played 3 straight games over 20 minutes in the last 10 games as opposed to earlier in the season? Hawkins even got several starts. I would call that more meaningful than extra minutes in a blowout or in back to backs with limited depth.
Now do the last 10 games for each...
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:28 pm to shel311
quote:Someone was talking about sending DD down instead of Hawkins.
I said situationally, not consistently.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:29 pm to NOSHAU
The Pelicans are literally 1 spot in front of Denver in bench scoring. For all the shite talk about their depth, they are barely doing worse than the Pelicans depth in production. 
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:33 pm to NOSHAU
quote:
Do you honestly think Hawkins should get minutes over Dyson?
Do you honestly think Hawkins should be getting DNP's while Naji and Dyson each see 15+ minutes.
Should we really be throwing lineups out there with JRE at the 5 instead of trying more small ball lineups with Trey/Zion at the 4/5, and giving JRE's minutes to Hawkins instead.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:36 pm to NOSHAU
I didn’t say that. I said it makes no sense to send Hawkins down because of his defense issues but keep Dyson regardless of his offensive issues. I don’t think we should send either down. My point was why is Hawkins being penalized for his bad defense, yet Dyson gets minutes despite his bad offense?
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:38 pm to supe12sta12z
The bench scoring rankings give a twisted look. Bunch of bad teams lead in bench scoring. Got a sprinkle of good teams that are tops in bench scoring.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:42 pm to NOSHAU
quote:The Nuggets have 9 dudes who have played at least 26 games.
Now show me the depth on the Nuggets and players missing?
The Pelicans have 5 dudes who have played at least 26 games.
quote:Is it NOT meaningful that Strawthers has been in the rotation and played 20 straight games on a healthy team and Hawkins is getting DNPs and mostly garbage time over the last 10 games?
So, is it "meaningful" because he played 3 straight games over 20 minutes in the last 10 games as opposed to earlier in the season?
quote:I would call it Denver right now has their rookie in their rotation and New Orleans does not.
I would call that more meaningful than extra minutes in a blowout or in back to backs with limited depth.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:44 pm to BradleyBadd
quote:He compared the Nuggets bench scoring to the Pelicans bench scoring.
The bench scoring rankings give a twisted look. Bunch of bad teams lead in bench scoring.
What does a "bunch of bad teams" have to do with that?
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:44 pm to BradleyBadd
All that says is Denver is doing more with less and the Pelicans bench are underperforming.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:49 pm to shel311
Comparing pels bench to the defending champs maybe. Just saying I think the bench ppg rankings don't show a complete story,By noting that a bunch of bad teams are at/near top
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:50 pm to BradleyBadd
And a lot of contending teams are ahead of the Pelicans.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:54 pm to supe12sta12z
Im not really on this side or that side with this specific topic. I looked at numbers thinking pels do have three 20+ Ppg guys in starting lineup and their time on court in stagered and Murphy only been back for short period
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:54 pm to BradleyBadd
quote:
Najji and Trey Murphy both were sent to gleague in rookie year
Good lord this stupid crap again.
Naji was an underafted player. Of course he did. Hawkins is not an undrafted player.
Trey Murphy didn't miss a single NBA game b/c of the 4 random games he played in the G-League. Don't act like he got sent down there b/c he wasn't good. The only reason he went for those random games was to get some game speed play b/c they weren't practicing much and Trey wasn't getting minutes in January and early Feb after a slow start his rookie year, which is normal, and the G-League games were convenient for him. He actually played a couple minutes in LA against the Lakers on 2/27, stayed in LA and played 35 minutes the next night on 2/28 in the G-League, played 38 minutes the 3rd night on 3/1 again in LA in the G-League, and was back with the team for their next game on 3/2 and played 5 minutes in New Orleans. Didn't miss any actual games with the Pels.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:59 pm to MrBarry
quote:
Trey wasn't getting minutes in January and early Feb after a slow start his rookie year, which is normal,
Same thing but to Hawks defense. Are you thinking Hawkins isn't coming back from gleague?
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 3:26 pm to BradleyBadd
What's ironic is Trey got his first DNP in game 21, after he was shooting 37% from 3 in his first 20 games getting 16 mpg. He played 14 of the next 15 games and shot 28% from 3 in those getting 10mpg. He then took a bit of a hiatus over the next 6 weeks, getting 18 DNPs and playing in 11 games averaging 7mpg, but shooting 37% from 3. Then he played the last 17 games, getting 20mpg and shooting 44% from 3, and that continued into the playoffs.
Hawkins got his first DNP in his 22nd game, after shooting 37% from 3 in his first 21 games playing 28mpg, and he's shot 28% from 3 since that DNP in the 6 games he's played in getting 10mpg, and gotten 3 more DNPs.
and of course he's coming back. They aren't sending him there to play with the G-League for the year. He's going there to get some bulk minutes at a high pace during this time of DNP's. That's all. He might play 2-4 games with them at best. I still think it's stupid he's there b/c i'd prefer he get more NBA minutes and Naji and Dyson maybe see a little less. Also don't ever want to see JRE playing 20 minutes a night while Hawkins sits on the bench. I'd rather play Trey/Zion at the 4/5 with Hawkins in the game than have JRE play the 5.
I'd also rather he simply be with the team and practice with them than play worthless G-League games where all you do is run the floor to shoot as many 3's as you can and play no defense.
Hawkins got his first DNP in his 22nd game, after shooting 37% from 3 in his first 21 games playing 28mpg, and he's shot 28% from 3 since that DNP in the 6 games he's played in getting 10mpg, and gotten 3 more DNPs.
and of course he's coming back. They aren't sending him there to play with the G-League for the year. He's going there to get some bulk minutes at a high pace during this time of DNP's. That's all. He might play 2-4 games with them at best. I still think it's stupid he's there b/c i'd prefer he get more NBA minutes and Naji and Dyson maybe see a little less. Also don't ever want to see JRE playing 20 minutes a night while Hawkins sits on the bench. I'd rather play Trey/Zion at the 4/5 with Hawkins in the game than have JRE play the 5.
I'd also rather he simply be with the team and practice with them than play worthless G-League games where all you do is run the floor to shoot as many 3's as you can and play no defense.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 3:57 pm to MrBarry
Yea I was being sarcastic with the question. I'd all but bet my life he'll be back within two weeks. With the timing, looks like they had to make room on active roster for Larry Nance as well.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 4:01 pm
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