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Guitar playing has hit snag.

Posted on 7/2/12 at 2:01 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 2:01 pm
I SUCK!! Being the snag.

What are some of the best ONLINE lessons you have come across. I am just trying to filter out a ton of the crap that is available when you google it.

FYI I already pay for Jamplay and visit JustinGuitar website. What specific lessons should I pull from those sites?

Really guess what I am looking for are some good drills (I realize they have to be somewhat boring) and lessons on reading music and chords. Chord changes. Reading notes. For instance "this is an 'F'" but it is on the 6th string 1st fret or the 3rd string 10th fret?

My "3 Chords and the truth" are getting pretty boring.
Posted by aaronb023
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 2:17 pm to
youtube man
This post was edited on 7/2/12 at 2:25 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 2:20 pm to
You live in BR?
Posted by MontanaMax
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2011
1929 posts
Posted on 7/2/12 at 2:24 pm to
Learn your chords first by finding a simple song, something with major or minor chord transitions. Do this until you have down all the basic chords down. Then learn your major and/or minor scales after. Don't try and start off with just looking at tabs because you will not know what you are looking at.
Posted by cachemoney
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 5:19 pm to
I practiced early on by drawing the first octave of a fretboard on a piece of looseleaf strings 1-6, since the second half of the neck is identical. Write the letter of each note in each fret and you will begin to see patterns--moving vertically and horizontally around the fretboard will become much more fluent.

For example, knowing where your octaves are can become an integral frame of reference when playing lead lines.

Like:

Frets 0-3

1-E-F--F#-G--
2-B-C--C#-D--
3-G-G#-A--A#-
4-D-D#-E--F--
5-A-A#-B--C--
6-E-F--F#-G--

Octaves (string skipping):

G->E(high) = 1.5 steps
D->B = 1.5 steps
A->G = whole step
E(low)->D = whole step
This post was edited on 7/2/12 at 5:27 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26982 posts
Posted on 7/2/12 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

Like:

Frets 0-3

1-E-F--F#-G--
2-B-C--C#-D--
3-G-G#-A--A#-
4-D-D#-E--F--
5-A-A#-B--C--
6-E-F--F#-G--

Octaves (string skipping):

G->E(high) = 1.5 steps
D->B = 1.5 steps
A->G = whole step
E(low)->D = whole step




See. This loses me. What is a good lesson that breaks this down and I can go back to when needed.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 6:29 pm to
Honestly IMO and take this for what it's worth because I am far from a master of the instrument but judging by your skill level I would focus solely on learning your basic major and minor chords. Once you learn those and can change between them all with ease then you could move to the next step.

Find some songs you'd like to learn and look up their chord charts on ultimate guitar. That should teach you your basic chord changes.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 6:30 pm to
quote:

You live in BR?


Make him call micah
Posted by MontanaMax
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2011
1929 posts
Posted on 7/2/12 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

focus solely on learning your basic major and minor chords. Once you learn those and can change between them all with ease then you could move to the next step.

Find some songs you'd like to learn and look up their chord charts on ultimate guitar. That should teach you your basic chord changes.


This, if your skill level is what you say it is then this should be the first step.
Also, like I pointed out before, scales can come in after this.
Frets and Notes
This is a nice reference.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26982 posts
Posted on 7/2/12 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

MontanaMax


Thanks.

Keep ideas coming anyone else.
Posted by acgeaux129
We are BR
Member since Sep 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 7/2/12 at 7:23 pm to
I agree. Learn the fretboard as best you can.

An easy way for hacks to sound good is to mess around with blues scales. Look up basic blues scales and play them back and forth/over and over again.

Good luck man. Best hobby ever.
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 7/2/12 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

Make him call micah


Him and his bro were offering free lessons I saw on fb
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
28602 posts
Posted on 7/2/12 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

Him and his bro were offering free lessons I saw on fb




Damn I wish I was still in BR then.



Idk his brother I don't think, is he in Godspeed as well?



ETA: I'm retarded I definitely knew Josiah was his brother
This post was edited on 7/2/12 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Haplochrom
Member since Aug 2006
4013 posts
Posted on 7/2/12 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

Really guess what I am looking for are some good drills (I realize they have to be somewhat boring) and lessons on reading music and chords. Chord changes. Reading notes. For instance "this is an 'F'" but it is on the 6th string 1st fret or the 3rd string 10th fret?


i am going to assume that your problem is not so much where an e# is located on the fretboard as much as you are lost in terms of relativity to where the rest of the notes are on the neck when you get there.

i find that transposing a piece to a different key forces you to find the same notes elsewhere on teh fretboard. take your guitar and tune it a whole or half step in either direction, and then play along with an album. do this with a song you already know. it removes muscle memory and makes you think about the steps between notes, how you are going to make your next transition, and maybe that pedal tone of the open "a" isnt there, so you have to play it higher up on the neck. it just forces you to think about every fret you touch.

very cheap and easy way to relearn the neck once you have learned your way into a rut.

eta: tune your guitar down, but play with a song in standard tuning.
This post was edited on 7/2/12 at 8:51 pm
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

i am going to assume that your problem is not so much where an e# is located on the fretboard as much as you are lost in terms of relativity to where the rest of the notes are on the neck when you get there.

i find that transposing a piece to a different key forces you to find the same notes elsewhere on teh fretboard. take your guitar and tune it a whole or half step in either direction, and then play along with an album. do this with a song you already know. it removes muscle memory and makes you think about the steps between notes, how you are going to make your next transition, and maybe that pedal tone of the open "a" isnt there, so you have to play it higher up on the neck. it just forces you to think about every fret you touch.

very cheap and easy way to relearn the neck once you have learned your way into a rut.

eta: tune your guitar down, but play with a song in standard tuning.




While good advice I'm thinking he is a good ways away from this point right now.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26982 posts
Posted on 7/2/12 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

While good advice I'm thinking he is a good ways away from this point right now.



Bingo.

I hope to need this advice in a couple years.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
28602 posts
Posted on 7/2/12 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

Bingo.

I hope to need this advice in a couple years.




Like I said earlier. First things first is to get a good grasp of your basic chords. Be able to name them and switch between them in your sleep. You should be able to identify them when you see them without a conscious thought.

THEN worry about your scales and fret board.
Posted by cachemoney
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
4632 posts
Posted on 7/2/12 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

See. This loses me. What is a good lesson that breaks this down and I can go back to when needed.


I was pandering to your request.

This is how you can learn the notes on the fretboard. Have you looked at tabs yet?

1.) The numbers in the first column represent the string, and then I placed the notes for the open strings (high to low [1-6] E B G D A E), and the note for each fret after that up to the third fret.

2.) Each fret represents half a step. On the low E string, the open E to the first fret (F) is half a step (like a unit of measurement). So if you put your index finger on the first fret of the 6th string, you'd be playing an F. E to F and B to C are the only half steps (1 fret apart) on the fretboard.

3.) etc
Posted by a want
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 7:39 am to
<--playing 25 years

Yeah, you'll hit snags. I hit one recently where I quit playing for 5 years.

Some suggestions:

* As some have said, just keep trying to learn 'all' the chords. As you learn them, your brain will make new connections, you'll understand more about the instrument, 'doors' will open....

* if you have a good ear, try to play along with the tv. Try to pick out the melody, listen to riffs, try to play along with the tv/radio. I've learned how to solo by doing this.

* Listen to a different kind of music. If you like rock, get a folk record.

* learning to play scales is also good.

Good luck on your journey.

This post was edited on 7/3/12 at 7:41 am
Posted by ChoupiqueSacalait
9th Ward
Member since May 2007
4288 posts
Posted on 7/3/12 at 9:14 am to
Youtube search "Marty Schwartz" and look through all of his videos for whatever skill level you are at. He's got everything from beginner to intermediate to advanced and he explains things really simply and clearly. I've learned alot watching his videos.
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