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re: For the Guitar Players: How fast did you progress at the beginning?
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:29 pm to _Hurricane_
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:29 pm to _Hurricane_
a - first part of the learning curve is the slowest, as you're learning things out of context as well as new unnatural hand motions
b - the more you learn (mentally and physically) makes it easier to learn more and faster. There's a lot of circular overlap between the components of guitar playing and once you can sort of see them in relation to each other it becomes and "oh I get it now" moment and you're off
c - best way to get there is to have a guitar in your hands as much as possible, and absolutely daily if even for a short time, at the beginning
a very good teacher told me once "you can only get better playing the guitar. You may get stuck and plateau for a while, but you'll keep getting better"
b - the more you learn (mentally and physically) makes it easier to learn more and faster. There's a lot of circular overlap between the components of guitar playing and once you can sort of see them in relation to each other it becomes and "oh I get it now" moment and you're off
c - best way to get there is to have a guitar in your hands as much as possible, and absolutely daily if even for a short time, at the beginning
a very good teacher told me once "you can only get better playing the guitar. You may get stuck and plateau for a while, but you'll keep getting better"
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:42 pm to TheCurmudgeon
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b - the more you learn (mentally and physically) makes it easier to learn more and faster. There's a lot of circular overlap between the components of guitar playing and once you can sort of see them in relation to each other it becomes and "oh I get it now" moment and you're off
Well said. This has been absolutely the most rewarding part of my small journey. The "A-Ha" moments when you do one thing and all of a sudden your brain connects it to 7 other things you've been trying and it all makes sense. Very interesting to think about.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:12 pm to Kvothe
I strummed the first chord of the Isbell song and I thought wait, that’s the beginning strum of Angie. And it is so now I’m also working on the intro to Angie.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:20 pm to _Hurricane_
Long post, but this is my experience.
I don't specifically remember, but it wasn't fast. Before I ever learned a single chord, I learned to read tabs and I played fingerstyle from Gametabs.net (video game music). I've always been big into video games and I never heard anyone playing those iconic songs on a guitar. Hearing my fingers produce those sounds motivated me more than ever.
Once I began to learn actual chords and strumming, I felt it was easier to play them since the fingerstyle playing stretched my fingers to the max. It really built up my dexterity.
Then, the floodgates of UltimateGuitar.com happened and I was trying to learn any and every song I've heard and remotely liked. The one thing I wish I had done earlier is learn music theory and all the small nuances behind the chords. I still can't solo worth a shite nor am I any good at transposing a song.
I guess all in all, identify what drives your passion to learn your instrument and practice won't feel like practice. Getting that one 3 chord progression in the first line in the first verse will feel like you just hit a grand slam in the world series. That feeling just kept motivating me to get better and better, at least that's how I operate. This isn't just for guitar either,I scooped up my first drum set in college and taught myself using the same philosophy. I would practice shite over and over and when I would produce the same sound I heard Art Blakey make on a record, I would feel like a million bucks. Nailing that one beat or making that perfect chord switch would "fill up my pitcher of motivation". There will be some days that pitcher is dry as a bone, you just have to keep finding the little things that will fill it up.
FWIW, I learned most of this in my middle school years with piece of shite Squire electric guitar with no amp.
I don't specifically remember, but it wasn't fast. Before I ever learned a single chord, I learned to read tabs and I played fingerstyle from Gametabs.net (video game music). I've always been big into video games and I never heard anyone playing those iconic songs on a guitar. Hearing my fingers produce those sounds motivated me more than ever.
Once I began to learn actual chords and strumming, I felt it was easier to play them since the fingerstyle playing stretched my fingers to the max. It really built up my dexterity.
Then, the floodgates of UltimateGuitar.com happened and I was trying to learn any and every song I've heard and remotely liked. The one thing I wish I had done earlier is learn music theory and all the small nuances behind the chords. I still can't solo worth a shite nor am I any good at transposing a song.
I guess all in all, identify what drives your passion to learn your instrument and practice won't feel like practice. Getting that one 3 chord progression in the first line in the first verse will feel like you just hit a grand slam in the world series. That feeling just kept motivating me to get better and better, at least that's how I operate. This isn't just for guitar either,I scooped up my first drum set in college and taught myself using the same philosophy. I would practice shite over and over and when I would produce the same sound I heard Art Blakey make on a record, I would feel like a million bucks. Nailing that one beat or making that perfect chord switch would "fill up my pitcher of motivation". There will be some days that pitcher is dry as a bone, you just have to keep finding the little things that will fill it up.
FWIW, I learned most of this in my middle school years with piece of shite Squire electric guitar with no amp.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:40 pm to The Dudes Rug
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I felt it was easier to play them since the fingerstyle playing stretched my fingers to the max. It really built up my dexterity.
I won't lie, I got fed and frustrated with some chord changes a while ago and veered into fingerpicking bc i love the sound of it. When I went back to basic chord changes I felt like there was a world of difference. My fingerpicking still sucks but my chord changes improved
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:42 pm to Kvothe
I love playing fingerstyle and walking the bass note. It sounds so "full".
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:20 pm to Kvothe
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I won't lie, I got fed and frustrated with some chord changes a while ago and veered into fingerpicking bc i love the sound of it. When I went back to basic chord changes I felt like there was a world of difference. My fingerpicking still sucks but my chord changes improved
Something that I like to do, is take a simple little recognizable old melody and start playing around with it, picking out the notes, and mutate it into something else, but then keep coming back to that same little melody every now and then.
Messing around now with something that starts out with "Reveille" and kind of slowly turns into a kind of rocked out Bluegrass thing. Sort of sounds like Ted Nugent trying to play Bluegrass
Posted on 6/10/20 at 9:07 pm to _Hurricane_
I’ll chime in.
It’s not the number of years you’ve played, it’s the hours. If you’re a prodigy you’ll be good in a year. It’s good to play something and nail it...at the same time seek out something harder to strive for. Since I retired at 52 (almost 60 now, started when I was 15), I’ve played 4-5 hours most days. I chased the dream when I was younger, I had a fire that life slapped out of me. It’s cool. I would have died. Seriously. But now, I’d have no fear stepping onstage with anyone and holding my own. I’ve got the gear, I’ve got the chops...don’t have the hair..lol.
Advice? Take the time to write for yourself, even if only a chord progression. Build from there. There’s no greater reward than putting yourself into a song and hear it come together. It’s better than any drug or drink.
Second thing..if you only have 30 minutes, then give it your focus. Explore. You have your preferred genre, step outside of that. Pretty soon, you’ll discover one of the secrets. Never stop practicing. I practice in my head all day long when I’m away from the guitar. I did it all day at work, when I worked.
Third...learn to sing well enough to croak out what you hear in your head. It’s the absolute best tool in your arsenal.
Ask questions.
It’s not the number of years you’ve played, it’s the hours. If you’re a prodigy you’ll be good in a year. It’s good to play something and nail it...at the same time seek out something harder to strive for. Since I retired at 52 (almost 60 now, started when I was 15), I’ve played 4-5 hours most days. I chased the dream when I was younger, I had a fire that life slapped out of me. It’s cool. I would have died. Seriously. But now, I’d have no fear stepping onstage with anyone and holding my own. I’ve got the gear, I’ve got the chops...don’t have the hair..lol.
Advice? Take the time to write for yourself, even if only a chord progression. Build from there. There’s no greater reward than putting yourself into a song and hear it come together. It’s better than any drug or drink.
Second thing..if you only have 30 minutes, then give it your focus. Explore. You have your preferred genre, step outside of that. Pretty soon, you’ll discover one of the secrets. Never stop practicing. I practice in my head all day long when I’m away from the guitar. I did it all day at work, when I worked.
Third...learn to sing well enough to croak out what you hear in your head. It’s the absolute best tool in your arsenal.
Ask questions.
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