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Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:47 pm to Tackle74
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It is great but better is relative. He does a great job but does not have the interviews and budget of the Vice crew. I recommend the behind the Titantron though, great stuff.
Heroes Of World Class is till my top shelf one
Posted on 5/9/19 at 3:55 pm to dr smartass phd
I love how we have two Eric Embry mentions here. Y’all know your wrasslin! I love it.
The whole Embry/PY CHU HI and Tojo Yamamoto feud. Goodness gracious. Terrible. He drew money though. I’ll give him that.
The whole Embry/PY CHU HI and Tojo Yamamoto feud. Goodness gracious. Terrible. He drew money though. I’ll give him that.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:39 pm to ZIGG
I have been watching the show. I even watched last night's episode and I had never heard of Gino Hernandez. The show is so good that I don't even have to know who it is about.
The others that I have seen I knew of and had seen all of them before. The Von Erich's episode was sad. I lived in Dallas during the family's demise.
The others that I have seen I knew of and had seen all of them before. The Von Erich's episode was sad. I lived in Dallas during the family's demise.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:51 pm to More&Les
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He wrapped a Porsche around a light pole in the mid 90s
That was 1986. As has been mentioned, Magnum and David Von Erich were the next guys. Everyone knew Magnum was going to be a massive star. David was looked at more as like an old school NWA champ like a Dory Funk or something I think.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:07 pm to landrywasbeast30
Would David have been THAT big of a star though? I always thought Kerry had a much better look and more charisma.
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Magnum for sure would've been. He was the complete package and was planned to beat Flair at Starrcade (instead of turning Nikita face). Although I wonder how that would've effected Sting.
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Magnum for sure would've been. He was the complete package and was planned to beat Flair at Starrcade (instead of turning Nikita face). Although I wonder how that would've effected Sting.
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:11 pm to stapuffmarshy
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my mom, who loved this stuff, would drag me down to I think channel 9 on Saturday mornings
That's pretty cool. I can't say I ever knew a woman who admitted to being a fan.
All of the kids in my neighborhood came over to my house on Saturdays to watch my Dad watch wrasslin. He was a one-man show.
He would stomp, do air headlocks, coach the good guys on what to do to the heels like poke them in the eyes, punch them when the ref wasn't looking, throw them out of the ring, pull the heel's illegal weapon out of their trunks and use it on them, etc, etc. You could watch my dad and know exactly what was happening on TV.
He was a Sunday school teacher and I never heard him curse unless Mid-South was on TV and the bad guy was cheating and getting away with it. My Dad took his wrasslin very serious.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:12 pm to Tiger Ree
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My Dad took his wrasslin very serious.
The good ole days when people still cared about kayfabe.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:25 pm to Korin
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Would David have been THAT big of a star though? I always thought Kerry had a much better look and more charisma.
I didn't really see the Von Erich's much when they were big in Texas. But I have watched some of his interviews since he committed suicide. I think the dude was dumb as dirt. Most interviews would have one of his brothers talking and he would just stand there, do poses and look good.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:29 pm to Korin
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I wonder how that would've effected Sting
I remember when Sting first came to the Louisiana circuit. He was part of a tag team. Sting went on to become a super star and I always wondered what happened to his tag-team partner.
Turns out, his partner went on to become the Ultimate Warrior. Those two drove in a car together, practically broke, from California to Louisiana to become wrasslers. They made a good choice.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:33 pm to Tiger Ree
Maybe Sting leaves for the WWF after Warrior quit in 91 if Magnum had been around. He would've been the perfect guy to take over for Hogan until the Attitude Era.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:39 pm to Korin
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Would David have been THAT big of a star though? I always thought Kerry had a much better look and more charisma.
I don’t think anyone thought he would be a huge national star. I think he was more looked at as a reliable working champ from a wrestling family.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:43 pm to landrywasbeast30
That wouldn't have gotten the job done in the mid 80s though. They needed someone like Flair to combat Hogan and the WWF.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:51 pm to Korin
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Maybe Sting leaves for the WWF after Warrior quit in 91 if Magnum had been around. He would've been the perfect guy to take over for Hogan until the Attitude Era
Flair has said Sting was perfect for Vince, and he wishes Sting would have went to WWF early in his career. He was basically Ultimate Warrior, but less crazy in real life, better promo, and better wrestler.
Sting was at the perfect size were he was believable against giants, but also athletic enough to go with smaller guys that eventually reached the top in WWF.
Even more so than Hogan, I think Sting was Vince’s prototype of what he wanted in a wrestler.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:55 pm to Korin
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I'm not saying Kerry was great on the mic or anything
I think that is the longest I have ever heard him speak. Better than I thought. I wonder if he had cue cards?
That Texas Tornado shite is sad to me. The whole time he went with that name he was wrasslin without a foot.
They could do a dark side of the Ring episode just on Kerry. Very sad.
Typing that about Kerry reminded me of when I laughed and then shed a tear watching the "Dark Side".
Kevin had decided to give up on life but couldn't kill himself like his brothers so he decided to go to prison - hopefully for life. He knew stealing a gun was a felony so he went to a gun store and made it pretty obvious he was stealing a rifle.
Said he was walking out of the store stiff-legged with the rifle shoved down his pants. He stopped and looked at the owner and his buddies like "what are you going to do about it?" The owner just told Kevin he loved him. Kevin said he stiff-legged it to the car, had a long cry and then went back in to return the gun. He said it was like a big group/counseling/love session and that event saved his life. Pretty touching and YES, that is a great fricking series.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:56 pm to landrywasbeast30
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reliable working champ
#1 criteria for NWA Champ, DVE could also play that dual heel/good guy role. That is what his heel run in Florida was about, seeing if he could pull it off. It also helped David had a vote on the NWA board.
Kerry got stripped of the title within a month because he wasn't reliable.
A good read on David
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This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 5/9/19 at 7:00 pm to Korin
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That wouldn't have gotten the job done in the mid 80s though. They needed someone like Flair to combat Hogan and the WWF.
On the Gino episode at the beginning the commentator said Gino was unique in that he was one the guys you could just hand the microphone to and let them go and they would do the rest.
He mentioned Jim Cornette, Michael P.S. Hayes of the Freebirds, and Ric Flair as others who could do it. I was always a Freebird and Michael Hayes fan. Even when they were heels I just couldN'T NOT like them.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 7:03 pm to Korin
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That wouldn't have gotten the job done in the mid 80s though. They needed someone like Flair to combat Hogan and the WWF.
I agree, the idea of David being that old school kind of NWA champ would be a bit silly pretty quick. But you have to remember, David died in 1984. That means David was being groomed before or at the same time Hogan was exploding.
By the way, the reason Kerry wasn’t thought of as the guy for NWA was because he sucked in the ring. People can talk about Flair’s charisma, but his work in the ring is why he was the man for NWA.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 7:09 pm to landrywasbeast30
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I agree, the idea of David being that old school kind of NWA champ would be a bit silly pretty quick. But you have to remember, David died in 1984. That means David was being groomed before or at the same time Hogan was exploding.
By the way, the reason Kerry wasn’t thought of as the guy for NWA was because he sucked in the ring. People can talk about Flair’s charisma, but his work in the ring is why he was the man for NWA.
Read that link I posted on David
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