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Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:07 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
You really are.
Hey, prove that hypothetical!
Oh wait
Hey, prove that hypothetical!
Oh wait
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:07 pm to musick
quote:Ren is in the same spot he was in before. Nothing changed. Still conflicted. Still unsure. Snoke was irrelevant.
snoke dying and Ren being the main villian now
quote:Rey has the books. Nothing was set on fire except for a tree.
Yoda with Luke setting the Jedi religion on fire to move on
quote:Didn't advance the plot or change anything. He has been gone during the entire story. What’s different now?
Luke dying
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:09 pm to musick
No one's asking you to prove the hypothetical. You can't even explain how it makes sense. 
quote:
So it's never happened before, even with less than perfect movies? But Star Wars fans were going to shite on The Last Jedi, even if it were PERFECT?
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:09 pm to Scruffy
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Ren is in the same spot he was in before. Nothing changed. Still conflicted. Still unsure. Snoke was irrelevant.
No he isn't
He went from being a mentor and following orders to calling the shots. I mean cmon man
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:09 pm to musick
quote:Ok, let's step back to view this from a distance, take a deep breath, and examine it.
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Yes they did. Luke wasn't perfect. Luke was also not a cranky hopeless coward who would think of murdering a family member in his sleep either
Actually, he was, since this is canon.
Also we last left Luke what... 30 years ago? But right Luke should be what YOU interpret his character to be, not the studio who owns him and the director writing him.
Star Wars is a beloved storyline for many, many fans (hence the huge profits stemming from it), Luke is/was the primary hero of that story, and The Force/Jedi Knights have crossed from just in-movie to popular culture, representing Good. These have become cultural icons.
Robin Hood and Zorro are also cultural icons, representing heroic swashbuckling adventure FOR the people AGANST the evil establishment. If you write a new movie where they are going against their own ideals, robbing and raping the general populace as murderous brigands... well, if you own the properties, that's your right. Doesn't mean it isn't fricking stupid to do so, and Creative Differences doesn't protect you from criticism. And what you've accomplished is the destruction of something honored and beloved by many over history, for... what? Because you can, that's basically the only answer. Would make you hated, and justifiably so.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:10 pm to musick
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You don't think snoke dying and Ren being the main villian now
We don't know who Snoke was and he never did anything of consequence. Kylo was always the main villain.
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Yoda with Luke setting the Jedi religion on fire to move on and Luke dying
Luke has been absent from the resistance for 30 years, he wasn't in VII, and he didn't do anything in VIII except die. and the Jedi have been a dead myth for 30 year if not longer. Again, nothing changed. Rey is still the last hope believer of the Jedi. That didn't change m
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:10 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
You listed 2 movies, to prove my hypothetical, which btw had nothing to do with it bc they weren't perfect movies.
But you wanted me to answer that question, regardless it wasn't the same thing I was talking about, at all.

But you wanted me to answer that question, regardless it wasn't the same thing I was talking about, at all.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:12 pm to musick
I provided two recent examples of Star Wars movies. Both of which were not perfect. Both of which received higher than 85% audience scores. Both of which were not torn apart by Star Wars fans.
But in your mind, The Last Jedi was going to get shite on by half the audience, regardless of how good it was. Even if it were perfect.
That some retard logic. I'm going to assume, for your sake, that you're trolling. No one's that dumb.
But in your mind, The Last Jedi was going to get shite on by half the audience, regardless of how good it was. Even if it were perfect.
That some retard logic. I'm going to assume, for your sake, that you're trolling. No one's that dumb.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:12 pm to musick
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following orders
Kylo defied almost every single order given to him by Snoke the entirety of VII and then killed him in VIII.
And Mentor? Snoke says he never completed his training, constantly rebukes him, and then dies.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:15 pm to musick
quote:Yes he is. The final scene of him picking up the dice before they vanished show that he is conflicted still.
No he isn't
If that isn’t the case, then explain what that was meant to convey.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:15 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:
I provided two recent examples of Star Wars movies. Both of which were not perfect. Both of which received higher than 85% audience scores. Both of which were not torn apart by Star Wars fans.
But in your mind, The Last Jedi was going to get shite on by half the audience, regardless of how good it was. Even if it were perfect.
That some retard logic. I'm going to assume, for your sake, that you're trolling. No one's that dumb.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:15 pm to Breesus
I've been trolling for a while honestly. It's been fun guys, I'm putting embargo on now. Thanks for the entertainment.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:16 pm to musick
quote:yeah, I forgot that guy who has like 5 minuts of screen time over 4 hours died. that's something that happened, wow...what a movie!
hink snoke dying
quote:
Ren being the main villian
oh yeah, I like the continuity. so ren is the main villain just like the last movie.
quote:that is a thing that happened...and it was there to service the story and characters, right?
Yoda with Luke setting the Jedi religion on fire
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to move on
oh, guess not. that sounds like it was totally worth ruining memorable characters and ideas from a movie that actually was good and original.
quote:
Luke dying
oh good so that guy who no longer had a part in the story died, cool. well, I guess his ghost fart appeared and brushed dirt off his shoulder and he did a neo in the matrix move so rey could move some rocks for people to get on her ship....whoooooooa
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:19 pm to Scruffy
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No he isn't
Yes he is.
You know what would've been an amazing twist in this movie and showed real and true development and badass movement on the character of Kylo Ren?
If in that throne room when Snoke presented Rey to Kylo to kill, Kylo force grabs Anakin’s old light saber, slashed Rey in half with it, then turned around and slaughtered the Red Guard and Snoke. Then Luke shows up to the resistance planet just in time for him and Leia to sense what happened and the movie ends with Kylo giving the command to take his ship down to the planet so he can face his old master.
You want to end the Skywalker line and restart the whole franchise? That's how you do it. Episode IX sees the first order wipe out the resistance and then Luke and Kylo battle to the death. Luke kills Kylo and then dies his magical force death.
Skywalker line ends full circle. Star Wars can move on.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:23 pm to Breesus
Hey Breesus can you go to the GB and answer a quick ? For me before I go shopping
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:24 pm to musick
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:25 pm to musick
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Hey Breesus can you go to the GB and answer a quick ? For me before I go shopping
Yeah sure. I'll take the Rian Johnson route there. Hold on.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:25 pm to DelU249
Are they like very often? Idk just wondering how much I have to explain lol
Posted on 12/21/17 at 2:26 pm to Breesus
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 8:02 pm
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