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Hey guess what? Me too. I work in a large employee setting which is usually a good litmus test of the pulse of pop culture. I've yet to hear one single person even dislike it. The closest I've heard where pointing out of some of the flaws but nothing changed the overall feel of the movie.

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:lol: :lol:

For those who missed it earlier. He works with 9000 people. They all loved it. This company is the litmus test of pulp culture.

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I'm convinced the movie could be perfect and half the audience would still shite on it.

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Is the dumbest shite I've seen anyone say in defense of the movie.

Also, the other revisionist history was that the majority of this board liked TFA.

I was in here 2 years ago defending TFA just like TLJ. This board hated it.

I said I felt it's true, because of rabid star wars fans that feel entitled to have things to the way they think they should.

Sorry you have a low comprehension level, didn't realize I had to spell that out.

hey musick, I wanted so bad to like this movie despite the negative reviews, but the fact is, it missed the mark on basic story telling.
This right here...

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None of the characters mattered. None of the action scenes mattered. Nothing happened in the movie. Every scene and every character was basically just a throw away interchangeable flat plot device

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I mean half the damn movie was the ship Leia was on was being chased by the giant imperial ship (sorry don't know the ships names) at a speed of 7mph while they just over and over again shot blasters at their shield while on board, they tried to figure out a plan. WTF was that?? how do you defend that? Are we made to think that while that was 90 minutes, granted cut back and forth from the island, it was really only 30 seconds in Star Wars time? Nothing happened in this movie! I'm not shitting on it because I want to and it's the cool thing to do, I'm shitting on it because it was a poorly made film. We're not talking about a no name director given a $5 million budget to make the script he wrote while in film school into his dream come true. This could have been, SHOULD HAVE BEEN, a much better movie.

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Also, the other revisionist history was that the majority of this board liked TFA.

I was in here 2 years ago defending TFA just like TLJ. This board hated it.

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Yea man.... You got it. I am lying about liking the TFA and so is everyone else.

Even though my avatar has been Rey since the movie came out.

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I'm getting called the delusional one for simply saying I think the movie is decent and not as bad as it's being portrayed on this board.

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That is not what you have been saying... Do we need to pull quotes.

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If you guys can't see that anything said in defense of the movie gets shitted on then you are all even more far gone than I thought.

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I haven't seen positives shitted on, I've seen the negatives (which are many and glaring) discussed.

And regarding "fanboys", there are 2 basic reactions attributed to that... one is immediate elation that there is another movie in the franchise, with refusal to acknowledge flaws, because it's Star Wars damn it. Many fans reacted to the prequels that way, initially. So happy you get anything, that you don't accept that what you got was crap.
The other reaction is the hostility to changing the way you perceive it. This seems to be what those defending the movie is attacking, but you have to also take into account- it's an established property, and there ARE some rules needed to be followed.

Take Man of Steel (Superman). Some people were thrilled that Superman was again on the big screen, because Marvel has raised the bar on the superhero movies, and Superman is their favorite hero. Finally, we get a new Superman! YAY! For those, just getting the film is great, like for some, just getting another Star Wars is great.

Some fans are upset because Superman's costume is different, he doesn't look quite the way they remember him. That can fall under the "I don't like changes" complaints, petty nitpicking that can be annoying. People yelling at the people complaining about Star Wars are accusing them of this... they say that you are complaining about trivial details, just accept them and move on, and accept the new films.
But then there are the other complaints, that Superman is completely out of character, that Batman brought into the film also isn't Batman as we know and understand him. Superman is hopeless and gives up on humanity, and allows many deaths... when the actual essence of Superman is the ever-hopeful boyscout who would rescue even villains from death. And that Batman doesn't kill anyone, he refuses to, so casually killing a bunch of street thugs and trying to kill Superman (of all people) is completely against character.
They are yelling that the actual fundamental principles of the characters are being ignored, or intentionally destroyed.

That's where we are with with this Star Wars movie. Beyond all the complaints of social agendas, poorly conceived plots etc, there is a fundamental and intentional attack on Luke Skywalker's character. Everything he achieved in the OT is undone, all his character growth is reversed. He is not "a Jedi, as my father was before me", he rejects the Jedi, he ignores the rise of Snoke, he allows his friends to die without attempting to save them... and then his character is further assassinated by having him just do disgusting shite like milking the alien, stand over his nephew in his sleep with a lightsaber, etc. Sorry, that's a big frick YOU LUKE SKYWALKER, intentionally pushed forward in this film. It's fine if you want to do that, but don't do it in a Star Wars movie... because that is also frick YOU STAR WARS.

Want to explore Superman as a fallen hero that doesn't give a frick about society? Fine- make Hancock.

Want to explore the failure of Luke and the Jedi? Go make that movie, but change the property, so you have the freedom to do so without destroying what is iconic. Want to do that and cash in with a billion dollar profit because you have Star Wars in the title? Sorry, pick one or the other. Creative freedom comes with original properties. Established properties have rules.

Luke doesn't reject the Jedi way. Superman doesn't ignore society's need. James Bond doesn't become a unscrupulous double-agent working against the West for personal profit. Things like that are just givens, it's pretty shocking that you'd even need to state it in print.

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no one will tell me why the movie is good,

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Because it destroyed Star Wars and it raped the lifelong fanbase.