been screaming that since it came out

jackie brown was hurt being the follow up to 2 much more gritty movies and kind of going in a different direction

if something like this piece of shite was his follow up to pulp fiction then we may have never seen tarantino become tarantino

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t's a self indulgent, bad play......he needs an editor in the worst way lately.

i think he is trying to be atypical, especially in his endings, and that + indulgence + too much freedom = shite

there is a potentially good movie in this material, but it wouldn't be "fresh"

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Posted on 4/16/16 at 3:34 pm to Baloo

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I don't think he panders, but I do think he's self-indulgent, which I think was sort of the point. QT has come under heavy fire from the newer generation of critics for being too violent, misogynist, and co-opting black culture. So I think instead of answering his critics, he instead just doubled down on those instincts to intentionally horrify them even more.

i don't disagree but that doesn't mean the output was good

just like i joked the main reason he made django was to drop n-bombs, didn't mean that the movie was lacking overall

django's problem was that it was too tarantino-aware and had too many of his tarantinoisms (the biggest example was the way he shot the beer scene early in the movie). TH8 didn't have those issues but the plot and pacing was a total mess

like my initial comments said, it was essentially camp. i hate camp. if he has to go to that excess to score points, he can't see the forest for the trees and the output suffers. shock is cheap and he relied WAY too much on shock to close out the movie

funny enough the narrative removed a lot of shock that would have been narratively effective (the poisoning)

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