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re: Question, GOT the show Red Wedding: spoilers

Posted on 2/25/14 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 1:03 pm to
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so long as Renly got the Iron Throne and Loras's arse.


Posted by CalLSU
Shreveport, la
Member since Feb 2009
918 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 1:03 pm to
Sorry it's Joffrey, I had a brain fart and forgot his name
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12411 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 1:08 pm to
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He was in love with Ashara Dane but after Brandon was killed by the mad king the alliance with Riverrun depended on his marrying a Tully.


Right. Married a Tully out of duty. Robb married Jeyne out of a duty to Jeyne to make her honest after getting her preggers.

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His official story even includes a bastard child that may or may not have been from Ashara Dane, yet he married his Tully, sealed his alliance, and won his war


Right, but we all know his official story is bullshite, that the bastard child isn't his, and he swore to keep the secret as part of his duty owed to his family.

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basically everything Robb didn't do.


Had Ned gotten a girl pregnant prior to being married to anyone, there is no way he wouldn't have married that girl in an attempt to make her honest. Oddly enough, it is Robb's misconception of his father--that his father raised a bastard child from a relationship out of wedlock--that likely drove him to marry Jeyne.
Posted by MediTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
250 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 1:22 pm to
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Right. Married a Tully out of duty. Robb married Jeyne out of a duty to Jeyne to make her honest after getting her preggers.


Both were done out of duty but Ned chose duty to family not to the girl. If Robb had actually "pulled a Ned" as described he would have married a Frey and would still be king of the north.

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Right, but we all know his official story is bullshite, that the bastard child isn't his, and he swore to keep the secret as part of his duty owed to his family.


You think it is bullshite and I agree with you but that didn't stop him from allowing it to tarnish his reputation out of duty to his family.

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Had Ned gotten a girl pregnant prior to being married to anyone, there is no way he wouldn't have married that girl in an attempt to make her honest.


I'm not sure where this comes from except pure supposition. All Ned's actions speak to the opposite. There is no way to know for sure but if you look at what he actually did I think the evidence points in the opposite direction.

Would Ned leave the girl he loved for duty to family? Check
Would Ned raise a bastard? Check
Would Ned consolidate an alliance, destroy a king, and rewrite history as a conquering Stark? Check, check, and check.
Posted by Jayre
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2011
590 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 1:26 pm to
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Renly didn't care if Robb took the North and the Riverlands


False. Renly would still be king over all seven kingdoms, with Robb's King of the North title being just that, a title with no weight behind it.
Posted by 68wDoc68w
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1869 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 1:34 pm to
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Why change from what was written? Do they consider themselves better story tellers than George R R Martin? Frick this show and its numerous changes from the story. At least give me the right color hair for Rob. I get why they had to age everyone 3 years for the show, but at least give me the right freaking hair color.


seriously

right color hair????

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