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Official The Last Jedi Synopsis/Discussion (Warning: Spoilers)
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:13 pm
Warning: this thread contains spoilers about Star Wars Episode 8 The Last Jedi.
Positives:
Supreme Leader Kylo as he kills Snoke after Snoke tortured Rey for the location of Luke. Snoke orders Kylo to kill Rey but he uses the force to ignite Rey’s saber cutting Snoke down. They fight off the guard together and Rey flees after refusing to join Kylo.
Comedic Hux was surprising.
Rose is a nice addition.
Negatives:
Luke is dead. He force projects his likeness to distract Kylo on Krayt so the 6 or so remaining Resistance members can flea. He disappears into the force like Obi-Wan and Yoda. He literally never leaves Ach To. Basically he wanted to kill Kylo as a child as didn’t. Kylo knew this and never trusted Luke so he turned to the dark side. He burns down the force tree and the Jedi text. Here is where we see Yoda, not Obi-Wan, not Anakin, fricken Yoda.
Rey is a nobody. Her parents are alcoholic junkers who just left her on Jakku. She is the light that is rising to meet the dark but she does nothing spectacular.
Haldo dies.
Leia lives, she is blasted into space but protects herself with the force.
Poe is a rebel within the Resistance hence why he is on the “dark side” of the poster.
Phasma is dead.
Positives:
Supreme Leader Kylo as he kills Snoke after Snoke tortured Rey for the location of Luke. Snoke orders Kylo to kill Rey but he uses the force to ignite Rey’s saber cutting Snoke down. They fight off the guard together and Rey flees after refusing to join Kylo.
Comedic Hux was surprising.
Rose is a nice addition.
Negatives:
Luke is dead. He force projects his likeness to distract Kylo on Krayt so the 6 or so remaining Resistance members can flea. He disappears into the force like Obi-Wan and Yoda. He literally never leaves Ach To. Basically he wanted to kill Kylo as a child as didn’t. Kylo knew this and never trusted Luke so he turned to the dark side. He burns down the force tree and the Jedi text. Here is where we see Yoda, not Obi-Wan, not Anakin, fricken Yoda.
Rey is a nobody. Her parents are alcoholic junkers who just left her on Jakku. She is the light that is rising to meet the dark but she does nothing spectacular.
Haldo dies.
Leia lives, she is blasted into space but protects herself with the force.
Poe is a rebel within the Resistance hence why he is on the “dark side” of the poster.
Phasma is dead.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 7:28 pm
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:19 pm to Loaner1231
They assassinated Luke's character so much in this movie. He defeated 2 of the most powerful force users in the galaxy 2v1 and saved the galaxy, but Pussies out when his nepHew shows signs of the dark side. And then they kill him off like a little bitch.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:19 pm to Loaner1231
Huge build up and mystique for Snoke and that’s it? That’s a joke. Was hoping for something bigger with him.
Ep 9 seems pretty empty at the moment.
Ep 9 seems pretty empty at the moment.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:22 pm to Char Aznable
This is why I said in the non spoiler thread Mark Hamill is right to fundamentally disagree with everything Rian wrote for Luke. Complete joke.
Episode IX will be the “Reylo” story.
Episode IX will be the “Reylo” story.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:24 pm to Loaner1231
This isn't a discussion its a damn synopsis. How did you see the movie early?
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:39 pm to Loaner1231
I can’t believe this is the path they take with Luke...
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:41 pm to peaster68
I thought I’d never say this but give me George Lucas back please.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:43 pm to Loaner1231
Hamill has publicly said that he wished they used George’s story line for Luke. Maybe one day they’ll actually tell what that was.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:43 pm to peaster68
What's crazy to me is that theses reviews are all so great, but if all the plot points are true, how? I can't see myself not being super disappointed if it actually goes like this.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:45 pm to Fleur De Lethal
I don’t understand it either...
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:45 pm to Fleur De Lethal
You’ll be super disappointed.
You are not alone, I am too. My favorite cinematic hero went out like a bitch and the Skywalker lineage is done. Mind blowing decision by Disney/LucasFilm/Rian. Don’t give me that Kylo is a Skywalker shite either.
You are not alone, I am too. My favorite cinematic hero went out like a bitch and the Skywalker lineage is done. Mind blowing decision by Disney/LucasFilm/Rian. Don’t give me that Kylo is a Skywalker shite either.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:54 pm to Loaner1231
Yeah, this movie does nothing to move the Skywalker story along
Snoke is a historic nobody, and now dead
Han is dead
Luke is now dead
And the only original Skywalker that survived (because she was female) is dead in real life. Which makes her story a non-starter going forward
Rey is a nobody, but because we are in a SJW phase in history, a female is replacing the Skywalker clan (on which 8 movies have been based)
And Kylo survives, but wants no part of the Skywalker legacy. Ep 9 will have to focus on him accepting his role in the family clan, or they will have killed off the franchise
Snoke is a historic nobody, and now dead
Han is dead
Luke is now dead
And the only original Skywalker that survived (because she was female) is dead in real life. Which makes her story a non-starter going forward
Rey is a nobody, but because we are in a SJW phase in history, a female is replacing the Skywalker clan (on which 8 movies have been based)
And Kylo survives, but wants no part of the Skywalker legacy. Ep 9 will have to focus on him accepting his role in the family clan, or they will have killed off the franchise
quote:
George Lucas: Star Wars Is a ‘Soap Opera’ about Skywalker family problems, with spaceships
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:56 pm to Char Aznable
quote:
They assassinated Luke's character so much in this movie. He defeated 2 of the most powerful force users in the galaxy 2v1 and saved the galaxy, but Pussies out when his nepHew shows signs of the dark side. And then they kill him off like a little bitch.
Exactly. Yoda and Obi Wan both were 100% convinced Vader/Anakin could never come back to the light, yet super optimistic Luke believed and actually did it.
Just a god damn AWFUL direction to take with the most iconic hero in the entire franchise. It does not make any sense whatsoever.
I hate the direction they took Rey also. The whole bit in TFA with how the Skywalker lightsaber was attracted to her, what was her lineage to explain her strength in the Force etc. Just an incredibly dumb path to take as well imo.
Say what you want about The Force Awakens but JJ Abrams set everything up for The Last Jedi to be the best Star Wars film since Empire Strikes Back imho.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:58 pm to David Ricky
Also, I like that Yoda is in this but it totally should've been Obi-Wan in this role imo. Force ghost Anakin talking about Kylo's turn to the dark side would've worked well too.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:00 pm to peaster68
quote:
I can’t believe this is the path they take with Luke...
I read that Variety review that was scathing and it said that basically anyone worth a damn in this movie is a woman. The resistance, the leaders, etc.
Some were calling it not a reboot of Empire Strikes Back but a reboot of the new Ghostbusters in the Star Wars Universe.
All the guys puss out and the women continue to fight?
True?
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:01 pm to peaster68
This whole storytelling kind if sucks. The reception should have been huge and in charge and the new order being the rebels fighting for their goals.
They had so much in front if them. They should have had jedi's and the main characters should be treated like Mandela/pope/Dali Lama.
Instead the heroes if thirty years ago......are still...rebels.
I mean I like the movies but they didn't need to erase the original trilogy, Luke needed to die old and Happy.
frick. This honestly is just dumb.
They had so much in front if them. They should have had jedi's and the main characters should be treated like Mandela/pope/Dali Lama.
Instead the heroes if thirty years ago......are still...rebels.
I mean I like the movies but they didn't need to erase the original trilogy, Luke needed to die old and Happy.
frick. This honestly is just dumb.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:03 pm to David Ricky
They went out of their way to destroy everything Lucas created. I was ok with Porgs because toys, I was ok with Rey and Phasma because it appeases the SJW culture and they still could have been bad asses. Han dying was OK because it’s what Harrison wanted... but for Luke Skywalker, who resisted Darth Vader AND Darth Sidious whilst turning Darth Vader back to Anakin Skywalker and the light, to develop into what TLJ depicts him as is a slap in the face to fans of the OT.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:20 pm to Char Aznable
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:35 pm to LSUlefty
quote:
"In fact, in a franchise that has always been progressive about representation, the women basically run the show this time around, which is arguably the best thing about a movie."
quote:
"Though the series has always been self-aware enough to crack jokes, it now gives in to the same winking self-parody that is poisoning other franchises of late, from the Marvel movies to “Pirates of the Caribbean.” But it begs the question: If movies can’t take themselves seriously, why should audiences?"
quote:
"Here, the laughs feel forced — as does the appearance of cuddly critters on each new planet.
quote:
Both are reminders that the canonical “Star Wars” movies (as compared with last year’s adult-targeted stand-alone, “Rogue One”) must also appeal to very young children, for whom this can be a formative moviegoing experience — which is the kind of strategic thinking that previously brought Ewoks and Gungans into this universe."
quote:
"Ultimately, there’s only so much wiggle room Johnson has to play with a property that seems destined to generate a new installment/spinoff every year until we die — which means that however many Death Stars or Sith Lords the Resistance manages to defeat, there will always be more, and no matter how few Jedi remain, there can never be none."
quote:
"A Corproate disappointment of a film run by the Disney formula."
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:58 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
A total waste of Snoke. I saw a discussion that Kylo killing Snoke demonstrates how powerful Kylo has become. I disagree.
It sounds like Rian Johnson may have shite the bed badly. And now a potentially equally shitty movie has to be made to undo some of this. The prequel trilogy may end up being better afterall.
It sounds like Rian Johnson may have shite the bed badly. And now a potentially equally shitty movie has to be made to undo some of this. The prequel trilogy may end up being better afterall.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 8:59 pm
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