re: Official Big Brother 17 Season Long Thread (Spoilers/Live Feeders/Maybe NSFW)

Yep, the heat is definitely on Clay & Shelli. Jason, Meg, James, & Jackie will definitely target them as of right now. Also once 6th Sense starts going after each other, Austin and the twins will go after them. Clay and Shelli went from being in the best position in the house before this week, to possibly being in the worst (especially with the other side of the house).

I also love how Austin is trying to equate the other side to the nerd herd. he is in for a big surprise when he leaves the show

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She can't do it right now seeing as how she booted his arse out of the house.

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who cares. that was weeks ago. America is starting to realize what I've known for a while. vanessa is a scumbag pos. my favorite was her equating the death of her husband to putting up Jason. really classy bitch

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So let me see if I'm reading you right, you're not going to be when she's standing at the end with the $500K?

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if she's standing with 500k a the end i'm going to be

I'd put Steve in Audrey's spot (he should be on the most intelligent row), put Audrey in Day's spot (there's no way she shouldn't be in the most unstable column), Johnny Mac in Steve's old spot (he's a good guy, but he makes me wonder with his off the wall comments), and put Day in Johnny Mac's old spot.

ETA: I had to redo my initial thoughts.

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In what way was Audrey intelligent? She had a cake walk due to her "extreme courage" of being the first transgender HG. She literally lied to everyone in the house and made it impossible not to vote her out. She should be at bottom left as she was also clinically insane.

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I could be had that she needs to be on one of the bottom two rows, but who from the bottom two rows would you put on the second from the top row in her place? Clay?

I only knew her from the late night poker shows that she was occasionally on. I'm really not rooting for her to win or anything. I did jump on her bandwagon for a short time from the point when she got Julia to reveal the twin secret, up to the point where she went cray-cray in her first HoH reign. During that time frame she seemed to be a really smart game player with the moves she was making. But her reign of paranoia soured me from rooting for her to win the game. But I do like it when she's in power, just for the shear entertainment.

But while I'm not really rooting for her to win, I still think she has the best chance to win currently. I don't see how anyone to argue that at this point of time in the game, that she isn't the current frontrunner.

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the thing that pisses me off most is that people are gonna say she's this smart savvy game player when in reality she has played a pretty poor game but the other side is just so stupid she's getting away with it.

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She's definitely not a top 10 player in BB history or anything, but I don't know if I'd say that she has played a poor game either. She was the only person to figure out how to use the twin twist to her advantage, which she used to form the only stable alliance in the house, and she has positioned herself at the center of that alliance (to the point where they will basically be fighting over her once they have to start taking each other out). She did take out Jeff, and is about to take out Jason which are pretty big moves (and the best moves for her game in the end).

Her biggest weakness is that she goes freaking nuts trying to come up with these elaborate schemes and scenarios that are completely unnecessary. The other house guests should've already picked up on her craziness, but she has somehow been lucky in keeping it from the view of the house.

While I definitely wouldn't call her a great game player, she has made some pretty good game moves in the game so far. So i think in comparison to the rest of this house, she is a good game player. In comparison to the BB greats of all time, she isn't in their league.

I hate them all except John. He's not really a good player, so I'm definitely not as interested as usual this season.