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re: Citizen Kane
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:02 pm to Tiger JJ
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:02 pm to Tiger JJ
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The difference is, the cinematography in Citizen Kane really did advance the story and add texture and nuance to it.
Story would have advanced without the cinematography. Cinematography helped keep people's attention to the story, but it didn't advance it.
Not saying the cinematography wasn't great, it was. I just prefer stories to that, and to me Casablanca had a better story.
But then again, I'm a writer, not a cinematographer. Which leads to constant arguments in my film group on this last project. I want to tell an actual story, the cinematographer in the group wants to do an avant-garde deal with just random scenes, no story.
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Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:27 pm to magildachunks
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Story would have advanced without the cinematography. Cinematography helped keep people's attention to the story, but it didn't advance it.
I think the deep focus DID help to tell the story of the main character.
I think story/plot is also the most important thing - vastly more important than acting, which is why I am perpetually annoyed at acting being the main thing that people want to talk about with movies.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:32 pm to Tiger JJ
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I think story/plot is also the most important thing - vastly more important than acting, which is why I am perpetually annoyed at acting being the main thing that people want to talk about with movies.
Amen.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:37 pm to magildachunks
Interested in writing a few things for me?
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:38 pm to Tiger JJ
Interested in paying me? 
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:38 pm to Tiger JJ
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I think story/plot is also the most important thing - vastly more important than acting
I kinda agree but not 100%. Thinking acting isn't important is why we see so many crappy remakes. "Oh hey the story is so good we can just plug in actor x and it will work!"
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:45 pm to constant cough
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I kinda agree but not 100%. Thinking acting isn't important is why we see so many crappy remakes. "Oh hey the story is so good we can just plug in actor x and it will work!"
the idea for the remakes is good. Rarely is the story good, because it gets re-written. Take Halloween. Zombie took that great idea, great story and ruined it by writing his own story and destroying the mythos of Michael Myers.
Greatest actors in the world wouldn't have saved that piece of shite.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:49 pm to Tiger JJ
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I think story/plot is also the most important thing - vastly more important than acting, which is why I am perpetually annoyed at acting being the main thing that people want to talk about with movies.
I agree with this. Great movies make great actors in a way.
Ive often said a great movie like "Cool Hand Luke" would have been a great movie if McQueen played the role instead of Newman. There are many cases like this.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:52 pm to bomber77
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Ive often said a great movie like "Cool Hand Luke" would have been a great movie if McQueen played the role instead of Newman. There are many cases like this.
But how would it have been with a bad actor? Greatest story in the world can't overcome bad acting. Or can it?
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:52 pm to magildachunks
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Interested in paying me?
I'm certainly interested in splitting the ownership in a way that is very favorable to you.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:53 pm to constant cough
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But how would it have been with a bad actor?
Well, my known and tired argument is that there just aren't very many "bad actors" in the professional class in Hollywood. It all comes down to casting.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:54 pm to constant cough
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Greatest story in the world can't overcome bad acting. Or can it?
I point you to The Dark Knight.
Bale is horrible in that movie, yet the story saves it.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:57 pm to magildachunks
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I point you to The Dark Knight.
Bale is horrible in that movie, yet the story saves it.
I didn't really think much of the story. To me the best part of the whole movie was the beautifully executed opening sequence. The story isn't much it's why I think Begins is a better movie.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 2:59 pm to constant cough
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I didn't really think much of the story. To me the best part of the whole movie was the beautifully executed opening sequence. The story isn't much it's why I think Begins is a better movie.
I'm not a big fan of The Dark Knight, as I've stated before. I actually prefer the Tim Burton Batman. Begins was the better movie. but Dark Knight could have been a horrible disaster, worse than Superman Returns, if the story wouldn't have been what it was.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:03 pm to Tiger JJ
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I'm certainly interested in splitting the ownership in a way that is very favorable to you.
Depends on the ideas. But I'd look them over and consider them.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:07 pm to magildachunks
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I actually prefer the Tim Burton Batman.
Speaking of cinematography like as mentioned on the first page of the thread talk of Wizard of Oz set stages and German Expressionism I've always enjoyed the look of Batman Returns.
He really creates that old looks better than any other modern director. Though it's not always enough to carry his movies.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:10 pm to constant cough
the man can do atmosphere, I'll give him that.
Ed Wood is great cinematography.
Ed Wood is great cinematography.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 3:11 pm to magildachunks
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Ed Wood is great cinematography.
Agreed. That's Burton's best movie, IMO.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 4:14 pm to magildachunks
Good lord I should have known this thread was going to talk about bale as batman.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 4:26 pm to magildachunks
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Depends on the ideas. But I'd look them over and consider them.
OK.
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