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re: A Review of the Original Star Wars Trilogy by a Modern SW Fan

Posted on 12/19/17 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 2:59 pm to
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Thank you for mentioning this. Boba Fett didn't do shite...ever. Yet, he's insanely popular and a fan favorite. It makes no sense. Cool armor? Check. Quiet and brooding? Check. Accomplish anything else? Well, I guess he was good at following people. In his only combat sequence Luke cuts his blaster in half and Han accidentally bumps into him causing his jetpack to malfunction sending him into the sarlaac pit.




Boba was mysterious, then expanded upon in Video Games and Books. That's why he became important. Nerds latching on made him cool, and this worked its way into the general cultural appeal of Star Wars. Boba's popularity had nearly nothing to do with the films outside of him looking cool and saying nothing. But that's always been a "cool" thing. Double for adding to his mystery as well.
Posted by Starchild
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:00 pm to
Rabble rabble rabble!

You’ll get downvoted to oblivion but this whole thing rings true with one thing, there is no way to please the modern SW audience, none whatsoever. Even IF a movie is made that follows some of the more solid theories out there, creates beloved characters, and “takes risks” people will still complain. It’s what modern cinema is it seems.

Oh and...
Rabble rabble rabble!
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:01 pm to
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These are the same people citing the RT number as proof it sucks.



I hate Rotten Tomatoes and have never cited their rating on this site.
Posted by GCTiger11
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:01 pm to
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Snoke’s death was cool but his backstory left completely unexplained was a massive problem
I can only imagine how miserable you guys were for nearly two decades not knowing shite about the Emperor and Fett
Posted by musick
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:01 pm to
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Boba was mysterious, then expanded upon in Video Games and Books. That's why he became important. Nerds latching on made him cool, and this worked its way into the general cultural appeal of Star Wars. Boba's popularity had nearly nothing to do with the films outside of him looking cool and saying nothing. But that's always been a "cool" thing. Double for adding to his mystery as well.


This is true, but it was all a result of terrible character writing and development, and arch in the original movies. Boba transcended that BECAUSE he was handled so poorly. That doesn't get his character a pass. His death scene is so terrible. It's barely even in the movie.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:02 pm to
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Do you remember those threads?


Yes. The show was dogshit. The last three seasons were dogshit, although this most recent season was better than the 2 before it.

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called you out repeatedly back then


Calling people out is like a really big deal to you, huh?
Posted by musick
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:04 pm to
No, but it was for the sake of this discussion. People are making it a point to repeat over and over how much they hate the movie, much like then, and especially when someone comes along and says positive things.

I shouldnt have to explain this but here we are.
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:05 pm to
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I shouldnt have to explain this but here we are.

I shouldn't have to explain that you're going to get downvoted when trying to defend TLJ in a TLJ bash thread, but here we are.

The fact that you're complaining about that is hilarious. Like you didn't see it coming.
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted by musick
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:07 pm to
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I shouldn't have to explain that you're going to get downvoted on when trying to defend TLJ in a TLJ bash thread, but here we are


you think this is a TLJ bash thread?



if it is, it's because every TLJ thread here is a bash thread, thus expanding on my point even further.

Posted by GCTiger11
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:09 pm to
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I shouldn't have to explain that you're going to get downvoted on when trying to defend TLJ in a TLJ bash thread, but here we are.
If I made a non-bashing thread right now discussing how much I enjoyed TLJ, the same 4-5 bros would be there with their ARE U AUTISTIC, WTF DID U WATCH bullshite spamming. Have you seen this board the past 4 days?
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 3:12 pm
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:09 pm to
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you think this is a TLJ bash thread?

Is someone bashing your pro-TLJ opinions in here?

Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:09 pm to
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If I made a non-bashing thread right now discussing how much I enjoyed TLJ, the same 4-5 bros would be there ARE U AUTISTIC, WTF DID U WATCH bullshite spamming. Have you seen this board the past 4 days?

You would definitely get shite on. But musick is complaining about getting downvoted in TLJ bash threads.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:10 pm to
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This is true, but it was all a result of terrible character writing and development, and arch in the original movies. Boba transcended that BECAUSE he was handled so poorly. That doesn't get his character a pass. His death scene is so terrible. It's barely even in the movie.




His death scene is meaningless because he is generally a meaningless character according to THIS Universe, meaning, our new universe were the Expanded stuff doesn't exist. He's a re shirt, a side character, whose sole purpose was to be a clone for the clone army, that's all we know. We don't need to know more.
Posted by GCTiger11
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:11 pm to
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you think this is a TLJ bash thread?



seriously. This is a fanboy bashing thread if anything. OP and the reddit guy who made the post was obviously mocking the “‘modern SW Fan”
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:11 pm to
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can only imagine how miserable you guys were for nearly two decades not knowing shite about the Emperor


When the OT came out there was not an already established massive universe that it was continuing. Those questions didn't exist because they didn't need to.

There is now. And in that universe there is a rule of two Sith and a very clear necessity to be trained in the ways of the force and the dark side, and 30 years ago both of those Sith died along with every Jedi not named Luke Skywalker. Every Sith and every Jedi was dead. All of them. And The Force Awakens confirms that in that span the Jedi and Sith are basically relegated to myths that don't exist anymore. So the question who the frick is Snoke, how is he more powerful than any Sith we've ever seen, how has he been alive and operating since the time line of the OT, how did he operate under Luke's nose, and where did he come from are very valid questions.

Luke is supposed to basically be the last person alive who understands the Sith and the Jedi and the force. But somehow this Snoke guy is still here and knows the entire past of the Jedi and the Skywalkers and the Sith and is a super powerful dark force user? It's shitty writing.

You can't understand that difference?
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted by musick
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:11 pm to
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If I made a non-bashing thread right now discussing how much I enjoyed TLJ, the same 4-5 bros would be there ARE U AUTISTIC, WTF DID U WATCH bullshite spamming. Have you seen this board the past 4 days?


fricking THANK you
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:12 pm to
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If I made a non-bashing thread right now discussing how much I enjoyed TLJ, the same 4-5 bros would be there ARE U AUTISTIC, WTF DID U WATCH bullshite spamming. Have you seen this board the past 4 days?


If you believe this to be true, then start it and see what happens. But don't assume some people will do something, make your decisions and assumptions based on that, and then never do it while at the same time hold people to that outcome.

Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:12 pm to
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fricking THANK you

So instead of even TRYING to discuss the movie with likeminded people, you're going to try to defend the movie in TLJ bash threads and complain when you get downvoted.

Holy fricking hell.

Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:13 pm to
whoever wrote that is fricking retarded...what the frick is a "modern" star wars fan

it isn't an argument over what star wars should be. a good movie is a good movie and a bad movie is a bad movie

the last jedi is a bad movie

star wars and the empire strikes back are awesome, formative, quintessential movie experiences that resonate 40 years later...no one is going to remember this schlock
Posted by musick
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:14 pm to
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His death scene is meaningless because he is generally a meaningless character according to THIS Universe, meaning, our new universe were the Expanded stuff doesn't exist. He's a re shirt, a side character, whose sole purpose was to be a clone for the clone army, that's all we know. We don't need to know more.


The same thing could be said for Snoke, which is another big reasons the movie is getting shite on for not being developed. Side character, sith, only purpose was to make the path to Ren the antagonist, which is all that matters to this trilogy, and he did. BUT OMG NO WE NEED TO KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT SNOKES BG. WHY IS HE EVIL

Don't even get me started on Palpatine, who wasn't developed either until 20 years later.

It's pure hypocrisy.
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 3:15 pm
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