re: Why wouldn't every team want Michael Vick

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Studies upon studies about fast twitch muscle fibers and skeletal structure has proven this to be fact, sorry.

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Actually, Blacks FROM WESTERN AFRICA are shown to be faster, and then it only makes itself present at the elite levels, just as ONLY KENYANS FROM A CERTAIN PART OF THE COUNTRY ARE GREAT DISTANCE RUNNERS, not all Kenyans.

Once again, OUTLIERS FROM SEGMENTS OF THE TOTAL POPULATION.

For frick's sake, if you've read "Taboo" or Michael Shermer's essay about Race and Sports in the journal "Skeptic" from a few years ago you would have gotten that.

The blanket statement "Blacks on aggregate (i.e., average) are more athletic than Whites" is false because the AVERAGE person (Black or White) is, well, AVERAGE.

Once again, at the ELITE levels, you see a drastic difference (and no one will debate that, as the facts speak for themselves), but once again, those are the OUTLIERS, not the NORM.

Now, back to the racist statement:

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Blacks don't care about fatherhood


That alone is a racist statement. However, it seems a bit out of context of what he was trying to say and you know it.

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No the statement was NOT taken out of context, and you know it. The exact statement was this:

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Black people don't value the idea of being a father either, but that doesn't make it right.

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That's football and basketball.

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Generally the only two popular sports among the black community, right? That explains why there are less in other sports.

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baseball, cross country, swimming, gymnastics, wrestling, Track & Field events like long jump, high jump, javelin throw, etc.

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Not as many blacks participate in these sports. But, the blacks from foreign countries dominate in track and field.

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Not as many blacks participate in these sports. But, the blacks from foreign countries dominate in track and field.

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Not in the weight events, and in distance running, it's only a very small group of people from a very small country who dominate...

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You're right. It wasn't taken out of context. I try to give benefit of the doubt to people. However, nothing I said was racist, yet you called me a racist. That's the problem with race relations, is that everyone is quick to brand someone a racist, and once they are that person is professionally ruined.

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My fault. I lumped you in with the other guy.

I apologize.



But I still think that teams would be stupid not to take a flier on Vick if they think that he is better and cheaper than another option on their team.

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Actually, Blacks FROM WESTERN AFRICA are shown to be faster, and then it only makes itself present at the elite levels, just as ONLY KENYANS FROM A CERTAIN PART OF THE COUNTRY ARE GREAT DISTANCE RUNNERS, not all Kenyans.

Once again, OUTLIERS FROM SEGMENTS OF THE TOTAL POPULATION.

For frick's sake, if you've read "Taboo" or Michael Shermer's essay about Race and Sports in the journal "Skeptic" from a few years ago you would have gotten that.

The blanket statement "Blacks on aggregate (i.e., average) are more athletic than Whites" is false because the AVERAGE person (Black or White) is, well, AVERAGE.

Once again, at the ELITE levels, you see a drastic difference (and no one will debate that, as the facts speak for themselves), but once again, those are the OUTLIERS, not the NORM.

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can't see the Forrest for all the trees huh? Blacks on average are more athletic then whites on average. If you can't see that........you aren't wanting to look.

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But I still think that teams would be stupid not to take a flier on Vick if they think that he is better and cheaper than another option on their team.

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Only some teams. I'd say the redskins, vikings, Bears, and other teams lacking an offense should at least give him a shot at the wildcat or being a backup QB or something. hell, he can't be worse than fricking Gus Frerotte.

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I can see his point actually.

On average blacks are poorer than whites and thus play sports or do things to stay in better shape. White kids stay inside and play xbox adn shite.

Basically, for average people it has to do with practicing at it more and not being sedentary.

THe outliers thing actually makes sense. ?That is where your speed factors make a difference in sports like basketball and football and sprinting.

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Total B.S., maybe now. When I was coming up we played basketball year round (North Carolina). I went and did something everyday. When I moved to La. I was very athletic for a white guy. One of the most athletic white guys in our school........I wouldn't consider myself athletic though, due to going to a school that was half black and seeing for myself that genetics plays a role in this. I knew black guys that had never exercised at all that could dunk a basketball. I don't need a study, I know what reality is.

whatever brah, I've played sports all my life. It is true, if you don't want to believe it......who cares.

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So have I, and I've played against a lot of really fast, athletic white guys, too

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When my cousin went to state for basketball in 92' they got schooled by some white boys in the Kansas 4a championship game. My cousin's team had 5 black starters and about 3 more blacks on the bench. They beat the other black team from Topeka in the semi's. Only lost like 1 game all year. Everybody thought they'd win it all. Got to the championship game those white boys took them to school. They had speed, could shoot, hit free throws, etc.

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That is because basketball has a ton to do with coaching, skill, and fundamentals. You see that a lot in sports. We are just talking about pure athleticism here. Who can run faster, jump higher that sort of thing with everything else being equal.