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re: What makes coaching in the nfl so much harder than college?
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:24 pm to OldTigahFot
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:24 pm to OldTigahFot
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Perhaps he hasn't heard of Tom Coughlin and Bill Belichick. Both are extremely hard disciplinarians and have had success with it. They just seem to know when to back off and when to apply pressure.
Coughing has admitted that he stopped being such a harass the year before winning the first Super Bowl in 2007.
That said I think the NYG pass rush had more to do with the Giants winning 2 Super Bowls then Coughlin's attitude
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Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:28 pm to cfbfan#1
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switzer(once jimmys players ran out)
Where did Jimmy come from?
How about Coughlin?
Carroll?
Dennis Green?
Jim Harbaugh?
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:29 pm to Jalbow3
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Good NFL coaches are players coaches like Jimmy Johnson. The players in the NFL don't seem to respond as well to disciplinarians.
Which explains how Coughlin took an expansion team to the AFC Championship game like two seasons in and won two Super Bowls with the Giants.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:32 pm to jacks40
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Won't it almost always come down to the players?
You can hide behind questionable scheming in college a lot easier if you can out talent your opposition in 10/12 games.
Can't do the same in the NFL, primarily because about 70% of what teams run is the same, and because the talent gap is much, much more narrow.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:44 pm to Sophandros
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You can hide behind questionable scheming in college a lot easier if you can out talent your opposition in 10/12 games. Can't do the same in the NFL, primarily because about 70% of what teams run is the same, and because the talent gap is much, much more narrow.
I guess my point would be this.
"COaching" in the traditional sense, watching film, yelling at players in practice, play calling, etc is no harder in the NFL than it is in college.
What is harder is player acquisition. In the NFL, that is a level playing field. Yeah some teams might be slightly better drafters but the limit of picks and the inherent crapshoot that is the draft makes any advantage slight.
In college, player acquisition is nowhere near equal. Bama, LSU, Florida, Ohio St, USC etc etc have inherent advantages that can not be duplicated easily.
So while player acquisition is harder, that's not what the traditional notion of "coaching" tends to entail.
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 4/17/13 at 8:26 am to cfbfan#1
Combination of things:
Harder to gather talent
Stubburness
Shitty ownership/management
More level competion
Harder to get away with illegal shite
Harder to gather talent
Stubburness
Shitty ownership/management
More level competion
Harder to get away with illegal shite
Posted on 4/17/13 at 9:07 am to BayouFann
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Shitty ownership/management
That's a huge one. In college, you ARE management. In the NFL, you (for the most part) have much less control over the various aspects of how your team is run.
And dealing with a salary cap is much, much more difficult than dealing with scholarships. It's like comparing multivariate calculus to arithmetic.
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