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re: Watching Collison outplay DWill...
Posted on 2/17/10 at 10:54 pm to someoldhussy
Posted on 2/17/10 at 10:54 pm to someoldhussy
while granger hasn't been the most healthy guy lately, wallace averages a TON of missed games
he's only had 1 great year also
joe johnson is a motherfricking badass
20/5/5 and he makes his FTs
he's only had 1 great year also
quote:
Not for Chris Paul.
joe johnson is a motherfricking badass
20/5/5 and he makes his FTs
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Posted on 2/17/10 at 10:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
Look, if you can get Granger and swap first round picks to pick up Turner/Cousins/Favors then go ahead and roll the dice, but otherwise it just doesn't make sense.
edit: Ok you know what, maybe Joe Johnson, but not the other two.
edit: But still even JJ takes a lot of jumpers.
edit: Ok you know what, maybe Joe Johnson, but not the other two.
edit: But still even JJ takes a lot of jumpers.
This post was edited on 2/17/10 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 2/17/10 at 10:59 pm to Ghazi
Lol you put Joe Johnson on the Hornets right now and take off any wing player besides MT5 and the Hornets are in the Western Conference Finals...Front line is no match to Lakers though...
The Hornets WILL NOT TRADE CP3 till he's in the last year of his contract because of the fact he might not re sign if the team doesn't improve.
Darren Collison will not be traded either, CP3 needs a backup and backup PG's are so hard to find in this league.
The player I can definitely see packaged in a deal is MT5. I DO NOT WANT HIM TO GO. He is my 2nd favorite Hornet but to get a BIG TIME player in here a package of DWest, MT5 and a first RD pick could do it in the offseason. Or even Okafor instead.
So I can definitely see it as a possibility. Maybe something like Okafor, MT5 a first RD pick for Al Jefferson ?
Then use Peja's Expiring to get an Igoudola or some type of 16+ a game scorer like that.
The Hornets WILL NOT TRADE CP3 till he's in the last year of his contract because of the fact he might not re sign if the team doesn't improve.
Darren Collison will not be traded either, CP3 needs a backup and backup PG's are so hard to find in this league.
The player I can definitely see packaged in a deal is MT5. I DO NOT WANT HIM TO GO. He is my 2nd favorite Hornet but to get a BIG TIME player in here a package of DWest, MT5 and a first RD pick could do it in the offseason. Or even Okafor instead.
So I can definitely see it as a possibility. Maybe something like Okafor, MT5 a first RD pick for Al Jefferson ?
Then use Peja's Expiring to get an Igoudola or some type of 16+ a game scorer like that.
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:00 pm to someoldhussy
quote:
But still even JJ takes a lot of jumpers.
he does drive a lot
he's old and will want too long of a contract, so he's not a real option in my opinion
we'd need to get somebody else who is young, like marvin williams
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:01 pm to MrWiseGuy
al jefferson is on the block after this year for some ungodly reason
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
marvin williams
Doesn't do anything quite good enough...to me he is a bench player...
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
There's a reason Chris Paul is the PG for Team USA and (insert fail here) Joe Johnson will never suit up for them.
I like Joe Johnson, and I like Danny Granger. But Chris Paul (when healthy, assuming this injury isn't severe) is an elite PG. It's him, DWill, and the rest. He's the kind of guy, coupled with a legit 4/5, who can win a championship.
Everyone knows PG's don't win NBA championships for teams, but they sure as hell can lose them. If CP3 is a 2nd option for a big time 6'11 PTP'er, the Hornets can win instantly. That said, they don't get that for Collison and West. They could, however, get a great wing for Collison and West, and try to draft a DaMarcus Cousins or something.
I like Joe Johnson, and I like Danny Granger. But Chris Paul (when healthy, assuming this injury isn't severe) is an elite PG. It's him, DWill, and the rest. He's the kind of guy, coupled with a legit 4/5, who can win a championship.
Everyone knows PG's don't win NBA championships for teams, but they sure as hell can lose them. If CP3 is a 2nd option for a big time 6'11 PTP'er, the Hornets can win instantly. That said, they don't get that for Collison and West. They could, however, get a great wing for Collison and West, and try to draft a DaMarcus Cousins or something.
This post was edited on 2/17/10 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
al jefferson is on the block after this year for some ungodly reason
Yeh i dont know why either SFP...Maybe Minny knows something we dont ? Lol but If i could swap em MT5, Okafor and a first rounder for him...would you not do that shite in a heartbeat ?
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:03 pm to Stewie Griffin
quote:
There's a reason Chris Paul is the PG for Team USA and Joe Johnson will never suit up for them.
NEVER!!!!!
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
The fact that I didn't know that will haunt me forever.
By the way, that picture is perfect.
By the way, that picture is perfect.
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:07 pm to MrWiseGuy
Jefferson/West would get annihilated in the paint on a nightly basis.
If you could get Johnson/Williams and make a couple good draft picks with a smart MLE signing you might be cooking with fire all of a sudden.
If you could get Johnson/Williams and make a couple good draft picks with a smart MLE signing you might be cooking with fire all of a sudden.
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:09 pm to someoldhussy
quote:
Johnson/Williams
As in Joe Johnson and Marvin Williams ? If so do you think they will just give them to us ? Come on man...not trying to be an arse here but HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU THINK THE HORNETS COULD GET THEM ?
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:10 pm to MrWiseGuy
quote:
HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU THINK THE HORNETS COULD GET THEM ?
i doubt JJ re-signs with the hawks
they'd be getting cp3 for marvin williams esseentially
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
i doubt JJ re-signs with the hawks
New York along with Rudy or Boozer
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:17 pm to MrWiseGuy
Al Jefferson sucks. Empty stats player.
Although he would fit right in with the Hornets
Although he would fit right in with the Hornets
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
Haha just realized that would be the clearest "we fricked up" trade ever.
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:20 pm to Ghazi
quote:
Al Jefferson sucks. Empty stats player
Seriously ? Dude's 20 and 10
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:23 pm to MrWiseGuy
quote:No. Nothing he says can be taken serious.
Seriously ? Dude's 20 and 10
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:25 pm to MrWiseGuy
Problem is he's almost a non-existent defender so you have to pair him with a Noah type of player to have an effective front court.
Posted on 2/17/10 at 11:27 pm to someoldhussy
quote:
Problem is he's almost a non-existent defender so you have to pair him with a Noah type of player to have an effective front court.
OR actually put him on a team that has a hope of winning 25 + games that season...would you bust your arse on D when you know damn well it doesn't really matter ?
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