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re: USC recrutinig the past 24 hours (move to MSB)
Posted on 7/14/12 at 9:45 am to FightOn4ever
Posted on 7/14/12 at 9:45 am to FightOn4ever
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Very good. So you agree with my statement
I agree that the SEC is a tough conference, yes.
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And he finished tied for second in the SEC-E in his first year, without the opportunity to be in the system for nine moths before starting the season, and without his recruits.
Mike Dubose once won the SEC championship
This post was edited on 7/14/12 at 9:57 am
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Posted on 7/14/12 at 10:14 am to Rocket
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Mike Dubose once won the SEC championship
and he was recognized for his coaching skills by being fired a year later and took the best job offered- at Millsaps.
Meanwhile, Kif was recognized by being offered arguably one of the top 3 CFB coaching jobs in America and taking it
Posted on 7/14/12 at 10:22 am to FightOn4ever
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and he was recognized for his coaching skills by being fired a year later and took the best job offered- at Millsaps
That's kinda the point dude. Just because you have success one season doesn't mean that much.
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Meanwhile, Kif was recognized by being offered arguably one of the top 3 CFB coaching jobs in America and taking it
Administrations make less than stellar decisions all the time.
Posted on 7/14/12 at 10:25 am to Rocket
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Administrations make less than stellar decisions all the time.
Of course they do. But in this case, the data point to a stellar decision thus far. Argue with that one.
Posted on 7/14/12 at 10:28 am to FightOn4ever
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But in this case, the data point to a stellar decision thus far
Stellar? No. It may have worked out a little better than the administration thought but I think they settled; that he was the best they could get under the circumstances. Ron Zook once got offered a plum coaching job at UF,but not because he was the most qualified for the job.
Posted on 7/14/12 at 10:38 am to Rocket
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Administrations make less than stellar decisions all the time.
BOOM.
Posted on 7/14/12 at 10:39 am to Rocket
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Stellar? No. It may have worked out a little better than the administration thought
Why am I not surprised with that statement?
With an extremely young team, limited by the most severe sanctions ever for a team allowed to play, losing several keys players, he gets the system his way and after finishing 10-2 and #6, he has USC in an great great position. And I throw in his elite recruiting as well, which is undisputed. But I'd be surprised if you don't try to argue the latter.
I don't know what the administration expected and neither do you. But you are either arguing for the sake of being obnoxious, or just blind. I think it's both, but that's just my observant opinion based on your posting history and style.
This post was edited on 7/14/12 at 10:41 am
Posted on 7/14/12 at 10:47 am to Rocket
There's no point in trying to talk sports with you.
You resort to personal attacks since you know you have no argument due to your admitted disdain for LK and how he is a "douche" for leaving UT. You also seem biased towards the SEC with some of your comments.
You're an SEC homer who has a weird hate for SC and can't stand Kiff and the fact that he's a great coach and would be any school's top three or five choice to lead their program for the next decade.
You resort to personal attacks since you know you have no argument due to your admitted disdain for LK and how he is a "douche" for leaving UT. You also seem biased towards the SEC with some of your comments.
You're an SEC homer who has a weird hate for SC and can't stand Kiff and the fact that he's a great coach and would be any school's top three or five choice to lead their program for the next decade.
Posted on 7/14/12 at 10:50 am to bddwolfpack
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There's no point in trying to talk sports with you.
You resort to personal attacks
:kige:
Posted on 7/14/12 at 10:54 am to bddwolfpack
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There's no point in trying to talk sports with you.
I was watching the Robert Blake Interview this week. He made a statement "I'd argue with a rock [then try to beat it up]". This guy's postings remind me of that.
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school's top three or five choice to lead their program for the next decade.
Be careful. He'll be all over you for adding the words "[three] or five choices".
This post was edited on 7/14/12 at 10:58 am
Posted on 7/14/12 at 10:59 am to FightOn4ever
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Why am I not surprised with that statement?
Because it's a very level-headed informed opinion and that's what you've come to expect from me.
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With an extremely young team, limited by the most severe sanctions ever for a team allowed to play, losing several keys players, he gets the system his way and after finishing 10-2 and #6, he has USC in an great great position
That's not hard to do. Pete Carroll hadn't had much success as a head coach before coming to USC, where there is a great disparity in talent between them and the rest of the conference, almost similar to the disparity between Miami and the rest of the Big East years ago.
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don't know what the administration expected and neither do you.
That does not mean it was a stellar decision.
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But you are either arguing for the sake of being obnoxious, or just blind. I think it's both, but that's just my observant opinion based on your posting history and style.
I am arguing because I do not agree with you. I have no obligation to. There's got to be a reason you say stuff like this, I suspect it's because you are upset just like anyone who has that much love for Kiffin that wolfpack does has to be a little gay. But that's okay.
Posted on 7/14/12 at 11:03 am to bddwolfpack
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You resort to personal attacks since you know you have no argument due to your admitted disdain for LK and how he is a "douche" for leaving UT. You also seem biased towards the SEC with some of your comments.
My opinion is there are other coaches just as capable, if not more so, of doing what Kiffin can do and have accomplished more. Acting as if Kiffin is turning around Kansas State is nonsense.
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You're an SEC homer
If thinking that there is not a tougher conference in all of college football than the SEC makes me a SEC homer, you're damn right.
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the fact that he's a great coach
I think there are coaches who are greater.
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would be any school's top three or five choice to lead their program for the next decade.
There's a lot more coaching talent out there than you appear to be aware of.
This post was edited on 7/14/12 at 11:07 am
Posted on 7/14/12 at 11:21 am to Rocket
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That's not hard to do. Pete Carroll hadn't had much success as a head coach before coming to USC, where there is a great disparity in talent between them and the rest of the conference, almost similar to the disparity between Miami and the rest of the Big East years ago.
Now you're trying to de-value to job PC, one of the greatest coaches in college football history, did. Amazing.
Posted on 7/14/12 at 11:29 am to bddwolfpack
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Now you're trying to de-value to job PC, one of the greatest coaches in college football history, did. Amazing.
You seem to really think USC coaches have a monopoly on coaching talent. You seem to think USC is like the college football equivalent of Iowa State.
Are you 10 years old?
This post was edited on 7/14/12 at 11:33 am
Posted on 7/14/12 at 11:35 am to Rocket
Are you a fricking biased moron?
Let me answer for you, yes.
PC built SC back up into the best program in America during his tenure. Kiff has taken over during a horrible situation and has SC in the best possible situation to be a national power for the next decade. Yet I'm ten years old because what PC and Kiff have done wasn't difficult.
Let me answer for you, yes.
PC built SC back up into the best program in America during his tenure. Kiff has taken over during a horrible situation and has SC in the best possible situation to be a national power for the next decade. Yet I'm ten years old because what PC and Kiff have done wasn't difficult.
Posted on 7/14/12 at 11:39 am to bddwolfpack
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Kiff has taken over during a horrible situation and has SC in the best possible situation to be a national power for the next decade
I can't wait for the football season
Kiffin had one good season with two mediocre seasons. Something tells me SC fans are gonna be let down.
Posted on 7/14/12 at 11:39 am to bddwolfpack
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Are you a fricking biased moron?
I'm am going to be biased towards whatever conference is the toughest in the land. And at that moment, it is the SEC.
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PC built SC back up into the best program in America during his tenure
One of the best programs. They were very good.
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Kiff has taken over during a horrible situation and has SC in the best possible situation to be a national power for the next decade
Maybe so but plenty of other coaches could do the same, I think.
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Yet I'm ten years old because what PC and Kiff have done wasn't difficult.
That can be the only logical explanation for your love for PC and Kiffin. You really don't seem to understand how much coaching talent there is in this country.
Posted on 7/14/12 at 11:42 am to Rocket
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One of the best programs. They were very good.
Wow
Are you really gonna try and argue there was a better college football program than SC during PC's reign?
Posted on 7/14/12 at 11:44 am to bddwolfpack
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you really gonna try and argue there was a better college football program than SC during PC's reign?
What is with you? They were not the only good program during his reign. Texas actually beat SC once. OU was a very good program. LSU was damn good.
They were just one of the better programs.
Posted on 7/14/12 at 11:49 am to bddwolfpack
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Are you really gonna try and argue there was a better college football program than SC during PC's reign?
Well LSU won TWO[2] NC's while USC only won one. A very good team?? YES but not the best. I will take what Miles has done at LSU since he has been here to what PC did the whole time he was at USC.
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