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Posted on 5/5/11 at 9:31 pm
Posted by DelU249
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Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/5/11 at 9:45 pm to
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Good. I can't stand 9/11 truthers


If you can't stand 9/11 "truthers"...then keep standing by and supporting the 9/11 "Liars."

You can't have one without the other.

For what it is worth...I read his tweet more from a religious stand point and not that of a political stand point. But that was just my interpretation.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162214 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 10:04 pm to
I don't think it was an inside job but there are enough things that are somewhat suspicious that give these people fodder

That being said what bothers me is they ignore evidence that comes from sources other than kook sources

I'm not completely convinced that there weren't some bombs planted. But I think they were planted by terrorists.

But then again that wouldn't explain the need for the airplanes

Maybe it was the intent of the terrorists to make it look like an inside job
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
7606 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 10:15 pm to
Good call Champion.

By the way do you listen to yourself Powerman? I mean seriously. I bet Tupac and Elvis where behind it am I right? I can understand some conspiracies but the 9/11 one is absolutely ridiculous. Everything looks fishy if you aren't there. Using your logic how do we really know Bin Laden ever existed? I'm starting to think (and this is based off your logic) that he was made up by the US gov't. Most of these little conspiracies come from people who I think are just plain lazy or just want to whine about something. But keep it up cause it's an awesome fad!
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 10:21 pm to
It was pretty amusing to watch the guys from Popular Mechanics get under the skin of those Loose Change guys.
Posted by TC16
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
2531 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 10:51 pm to
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It was pretty amusing to watch the guys from Popular Mechanics get under the skin of those Loose Change guys.



I've never bought into the 9/11 inside job stuff but I am through about 15 minutes of this debate and the Loose Change guys are kicking their arse. It may be because these two guys for Popular Mechanics especially the first guy to talk has horrible debating skills.

Popular Mechanics claims to have seen a picture of the plane hitting the Pentagon. Claiming that the landing gear created the hole in the wall... I would love to know where this picture of the plane making contacting with the building is when you can't even see a plane in the video.
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Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162214 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 10:58 pm to
Watch the zeitgeist WTC series on youtube

It's intriguing to say the least

The government has definitely withheld a lot of information about 911

And no one can really explain the WTC7 building collapse. Seems pretty apparent that it was a controlled demolition. By whom is the question.
Posted by TC16
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
2531 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 11:05 pm to
These Popular Mechanic guys suck... They continue to say "In the broad spectrum of conspiracies"... This is about Loose Change, NOT every conspiracy. If you have shown up to talk about 9/11 and Loose Change then talk about Loose Change. Don't you think they would be confident in crushing the film instead of talking about every conspiracy out there?
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
5153 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 11:12 pm to
Loose change was a very good video..

There will always be a conspiracy around the whole 9\11 situation, and how a plane took out a huge building like that. And how a "plane" crashed into the pentagon but hardly any of that plane was found at the crash site.

Either way, it his opinion. The statement was obviously made just to put a thought out and make people think.. If he wasn't a NFL player no one would give two shits about this.. Media is blowing this situation out of proportion.
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 11:15 pm to
I watched Witness: DC 9/11 the other night. It was almost exclusively news footage from that day. There were aircraft parts all over the base of the wall close to the point of impact. There was at least one part of the fuselage where I could see the American Airli/es logo & engine parts. A reporter asked a witness from the freeway what kind of plane it was. He said "American Airlines".
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66422 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 11:18 pm to
Take your tin foil hat off man ... come on.

LINK /

I'm on my phone and the link button isn't working.



Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
5153 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 11:20 pm to
What was the plane supposed to be? a buowing 747 or whatever? Huge plane? and all they found was a small engine that isn't used by a plane that size. and it only made like an 8 foot hole in the wall.? Idk i havent looked at the information in forever. Just lots of sketchyness in the whole situation!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162214 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 11:24 pm to
I didn't say I believed it was an inside job

I do think that SOME of the evidence they bring forth is pretty compelling though

Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 11:25 pm to
The hole definately looked big enough to me but im not an expert. The firefighters who were there certainly thought it was an airliner.

Dude, it wasnt close to a 747.

What about the people who saw the plane from the freeway? Or the passengers who called from the plane? What happened to them?
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
5153 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 11:28 pm to
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Take your tin foil hat off man ... come on. LINK / I'm on my phone and the link button isn't working.


So the planes that hit the pentagon and a plane that crashed in shanksgville or whatever vaporized on impact.. but the 2 planes that crashed into the twin towers didn't and were some how able to drop passports from 2 hijackers out of the plane onto the street below? Really?



- and there were also witnesses who said they thought they saw\heard a missile...


You believe one plane that hits a wall vaporizes an entire plane, yet another plane that hits a building cant even vaporize a passport?

I'm not saying our government planned this or anything.. Just saying the stories are sketchy
This post was edited on 5/5/11 at 11:29 pm
Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 11:31 pm to
Theres an entire website dedicated to debunking EVERY SINGLE POINT brought up in all the Loose Change versions (who'd have thought the "truth" would need to be revised...several times lol) as well as those college punks who made Zeigiest.

I used to be a conspiracy NUT, believed in all kinda of crazy crazy shite. SOmetimes I find myself still wondering but for the most part I did some digger deeping on my own and really got out of that whole phase.
Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 11:36 pm to
The Pentagon was hit by a plane man.
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
5153 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 11:38 pm to
I'm not saying it wasn't! I'm just trying to get the point across that the information released seems funky! I mean come on. The plane vaporizes and only makes an 8 foot high hole?
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 11:39 pm to
Are u implying the WTC couldve been hit by a missle?
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
5153 posts
Posted on 5/5/11 at 11:40 pm to
No. I was talking about the pentagon, and im not saying that's what happen. I was just saying that witnesses also said they thought they saw/heard a missile along with other witnesses saying they saw a plane! I personally do not believe we hit our own pentagon with a missile lol
This post was edited on 5/5/11 at 11:42 pm
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