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re: Thoughts from Game 1 Looking Forward
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:57 am to Walt OReilly
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:57 am to Walt OReilly
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Harden with only 5 pts and OKC still won
not liking the Heats chances
This is dumb, I could just as easily counter with: Wade played like dogshit and they were still within 4 points with 2 minutes left.
Hell I could even throw Bosh in the mix and say he played awful.
So now we have both Bosh and Wade playing horrible and still within 4 points, see what I did there?
This post was edited on 6/13/12 at 11:59 am
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Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:59 am to hiltacular
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Everyone is looking too much into this, it's going to come down to Lebron/Wade vs Westbrook/Durant and who gets the majority of the calls. Whichever two have the better game will win.
I disagree. I think the team that gets big contributions of role players will have the edge and will win the series. See game 1 if you don't believe this.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:02 pm to okietiger
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I disagree. I think the team that gets big contributions of role players will have the edge and will win the series. See game 1 if you don't believe this.
OKC won bc Durant/Westbrook put up 63 and Wade/Lebron put up 49. There is nothing else that matters.
What contribution from a role player outweighs the fact that the big 2 outscored them by 14? OKC did not win bc there role players were better than MIAs. Hell I would argue that MIAs role players were great this game. Battier was lights out.
I will repeat this and we can look at it after the series: Each game will come down to Wade vs Westbrook and who plays better. Nothing else matters, well Lebron putting up 40+ would matter but I doubt that happens
This post was edited on 6/13/12 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:10 pm to okietiger
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Tired of arguing this but Perk is one of the key pieces to a successful offense for Thunder. People are so quick to a see a big guy that's slow and has low stats and assume he sucks. He's the ultimate role player
A ket piece to their offense? The dude played 25 minutes and had a +/- of -2.
Westbrook and Durant were key pieces to OKC's successful offense last night.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:15 pm to EarthwormJim
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A ket piece to their offense? The dude played 25 minutes and had a +/- of -2.
Westbrook and Durant were key pieces to OKC's successful offense last night.
Who exactly set those screens for them might I ask?
Perk, Ibaka, and Collison.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:16 pm to hiltacular
Were Wade and Bosh noticeably worse than they were in the rest of the playoffs? No. Harden was. Not hard to see the difference.
Bosh is who he is at this point. He's clearly hurt, he's not positioning himself in the same spots he usually does. Last night he had a wide open lane on a pick and roll, but instead shot a 15 foot jumper (which he did make). Unless he has some miraculous turnaround health-wise, he's nothing more than a jump shooter this series.
Bosh is who he is at this point. He's clearly hurt, he's not positioning himself in the same spots he usually does. Last night he had a wide open lane on a pick and roll, but instead shot a 15 foot jumper (which he did make). Unless he has some miraculous turnaround health-wise, he's nothing more than a jump shooter this series.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:20 pm to floridatigah
It really is too bad. Heat just aren't the same team without the full health of the big 3.
Even though it might mean a Thunder series loss, I would rather as a fan of the game see the Heat be 100%.
Even though it might mean a Thunder series loss, I would rather as a fan of the game see the Heat be 100%.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:22 pm to okietiger
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Who exactly set those screens for them might I ask?
Perk, Ibaka, and Collison.
Seriously? You're definition of a key piece of offense is a screener?
Plus Miami switched every single screen. Durant and Westbrook got their points from mismatches and late rotations.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:25 pm to EarthwormJim
I'm not going to argue this again. Perkins is a very big part of this offense whether you guys want to see it or not.
Ever heard of Sam Presti? The intern who discovered Tony Parker? The GM who drafted Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, Serge Ibaka, and James Harden over the course of 3 drafts?
Yeah that "idiot" committed nearly 9 million a year to Perkins. I'll trust Sam over you and Killernuts.
Ever heard of Sam Presti? The intern who discovered Tony Parker? The GM who drafted Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, Serge Ibaka, and James Harden over the course of 3 drafts?
Yeah that "idiot" committed nearly 9 million a year to Perkins. I'll trust Sam over you and Killernuts.
This post was edited on 6/13/12 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:26 pm to EarthwormJim
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Seriously? You're definition of a key piece of offense is a screener?
Is your definition of a key piece of offense in football the offensive line? 
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:31 pm to EarthwormJim
Perk gets a lot of heat for being embarrassingly bad with the ball in his hands. Casual fans see a stumbling, travelling, inept offensive player and are quick to say "GET HIM OFF THE TEAM" (an actual facebook status I saw last night...)
While I admit I think the ball should never grace this man's hands on offense for more than two seconds, his presence on defense in the low post (and even on the perimeter from how he guarded Manu and Tony Parker on two separate possessions last series
) is invaluable. The way he played Bynum and Duncan allows Ibaka to roam and get all the blocks that he does.
Perkins is a guy for match-ups, though. I don't think he will be TOO useful in this series (you can see how he didn't play much in the 4th and that's when the team pulled away) but he has his moments. I love me some Perk.
ETA: and yes, he is the one who frees up Durant for a shot or allows Westbrook to drive the lane with the picks/screens he sets. Perkins will never jump out at you on the stat sheet but he is a key part to this team both on defense and his intangibles.
While I admit I think the ball should never grace this man's hands on offense for more than two seconds, his presence on defense in the low post (and even on the perimeter from how he guarded Manu and Tony Parker on two separate possessions last series
) is invaluable. The way he played Bynum and Duncan allows Ibaka to roam and get all the blocks that he does. Perkins is a guy for match-ups, though. I don't think he will be TOO useful in this series (you can see how he didn't play much in the 4th and that's when the team pulled away) but he has his moments. I love me some Perk.
ETA: and yes, he is the one who frees up Durant for a shot or allows Westbrook to drive the lane with the picks/screens he sets. Perkins will never jump out at you on the stat sheet but he is a key part to this team both on defense and his intangibles.
This post was edited on 6/13/12 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:33 pm to okietiger
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Yeah that "idiot" committed nearly 9 million a year to Perkins. I'll trust Sam over you and Killernuts
That doesn't make him a key offensive piece. He was paid for rebounding and defense. A key offensive piece doesn't play only 25 minutes and sits at the end of games.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:35 pm to floridatigah
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Is your definition of a key piece of offense in football the offensive line?
Do you seriously think that comparison isn't retarded?
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:35 pm to okietiger
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Looking Forward
OKC clearly is the better team
Heat will have to make serious adjustments and make them stick
I don't know how Miami slows Durant down even, much less stop
James/Wade probably must combo for 70 total between them per game for the Heat to win the series
OKC is gonna be beastly for years to come if they stay healthy and can keep it together
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:40 pm to EarthwormJim
Same general idea, obviously o-line is more imvolved in every play. When a good screen opens up a free lane how is that different from a good block in football?
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:40 pm to cornstarch
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Perk gets a lot of heat for being embarrassingly bad with the ball in his hands. Casual fans see a stumbling, travelling, inept offensive player and are quick to say "GET HIM OFF THE TEAM" (an actual facebook status I saw last night...)
DRIVES ME CRAZY
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While I admit I think the ball should never grace this man's hands on offense for more than two seconds, his presence on defense in the low post (and even on the perimeter from how he guarded Manu and Tony Parker on two separate possessions last series ) is invaluable. The way he played Bynum and Duncan allows Ibaka to roam and get all the blocks that he does.
Agreed all the way.
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Perkins is a guy for match-ups, though. I don't think he will be TOO useful in this series (you can see how he didn't play much in the 4th and that's when the team pulled away) but he has his moments. I love me some Perk.
A lot of this had to do with Collison playing so well and Brooks wanting to stay with hot hand. With that being said, I agree with you that he's not as useful in this series as in others. There's no Bynum, Duncan, Howard, etc.-type big man for him to bang with down low.
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and yes, he is the one who frees up Durant for a shot or allows Westbrook to drive the lane with the picks/screens he sets. Perkins will never jump out at you on the stat sheet but he is a key part to this team both on defense and his intangibles.
As implied in the post above us, Perkins is basically a big ugly offensive lineman that plays basketball. If you only check stats/watch casually, you will never appreciate what they bring to the table.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:41 pm to okietiger
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The GM who drafted Kevin Durant
that you make it sound like it wasn't some sort of no-brainer after Portland took Oden at 1This post was edited on 6/13/12 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 6/13/12 at 1:00 pm to KillerNut9
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that you make it sound like it wasn't some sort of no-brainer after Portland took Oden at 1
Why to leave out all the other unknown picks and at the time "reaches" that he's credited with.
Not surprised though.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 1:08 pm to okietiger
First off, my initial prediction was OKC in 6, but after that first game, im not sure how the heat will be able to win a game.
OKC is simply a better team. in the 4th quarter, Kevin Durant took over. People love to talk about the big names and stats of MIA but they do not function as a team like OKC does. I know people on here think its crazy to say, but im thinking OKC sweeps.
OKC is simply a better team. in the 4th quarter, Kevin Durant took over. People love to talk about the big names and stats of MIA but they do not function as a team like OKC does. I know people on here think its crazy to say, but im thinking OKC sweeps.
Posted on 6/13/12 at 1:14 pm to makinskrilla
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First off, my initial prediction was OKC in 6, but after that first game, im not sure how the heat will be able to win a game.
Careful. After Spurs were up 2-0 in WCF people were saying they were going to sweep, win in 5, biggest mismatch ever (:Roaad:
), etc. LOT of basketball left.
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