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re: The Giants would not have won if

Posted on 1/15/12 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 7:44 pm to
That's not my logic. But as stupid people frequently make stupid strawman arguments yours was to be expected.

Which is the better team? LSU or Alabama?

Which is the better team? St. Louis or New Orleans?

The better team doesn't always win. It's stupid of you to think so.

Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 7:45 pm to
I disagree with your OP but these guys really are making your case for you!
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

Are the St. Louis Rams better than the Saints?


Steven Jackson > Saints
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 7:47 pm to
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The niners led the nfl in turnovers. The ones yesterday weren't luck.

So, it's your contention that the Saints would turn over the ball five times to the 49ers every time they played?
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 7:50 pm to
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Which is the better team? LSU or Alabama?



Bama

quote:

Which is the better team? St. Louis or New Orleans?



New Orleans

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Which is the better team? New Orleans or San Francisco?



San Francisco.

You say the turnovers helped them. Sure they did. They also are a team that forces turnovers - it was not a fluke.

You said they won at home. Like that's some derogatory thing. They earned the right to host you.

Fact: You had the lead with 4:00 to go in that game and Alex Smith led a touchdown drive not once but twice in that timeframe. To blame that game on the turnovers is comical when that scrub drove the field twice on you in the closing minutes.
This post was edited on 1/15/12 at 7:53 pm
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 7:55 pm to
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Fact: You had the lead with 4:00 to go in that game and Alex Smith led a touchdown drive not once but twice in that timeframe. To blame that game on the turnovers is comical when that scrub drove the field twice on you in the closing minutes.


all of this. saints have nobody to blame but themselves.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 7:56 pm to
So, you agree with me that the better team doesn't always win. Good for you! even though you're still undeniably stupid.

Yes, I blame the turnovers. Alex Smith would probably have not been in position to win the game without them. EVERY play in a football game depends on something that happened previously. I said that with the full knowledge that it went WOOSH, right over your head.




Posted by Antiheroaz
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 7:56 pm to
Oh hai
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 7:56 pm to
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Yes, I blame the turnovers. Alex Smith would probably have not been in position to win the game without them. EVERY play in a football game depends on something that happened previously. I said that with the full knowledge that it went WOOSH, right over your head.



How many of those turnovers were flukes? How many were tipped balls for example?
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 8:02 pm to
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(Turnovers are not an excuse. They show that one team played better than the other, meaning they were the better team.)

lol

First off, one game is usually never enough to tell who actually is the better team.

But the Saints would beat the 49ers in San Francisco 6 out of 10 times. They choked that game away.
Posted by WmWallace
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
1820 posts
Posted on 1/15/12 at 8:10 pm to
Rex, you are right..Saints are better and you won yet another internet argument..Keep channel flipping on Sunday the Saints are bound to be on there somewhere..
Posted by tigerblood29
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 8:40 pm to
not many teams could be -4 to on the road and lose by 4.and the reason we lost by four is because greg williams thinks you have to bring 6 every down
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:00 pm to
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two teams to which the Saints are definitely superior.



Which is why the 49ers have the better record and a win in the playoffs over the Saints.

Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30041 posts
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:44 pm to
Funny...

Saints lose to 49ers where turnovers play a huge role, and it's about how the Saints GAVE it to them.

2 years ago, Saints win a Super Bowl aided LARGELY because they had a defense that could force turnovers. Their 2 championships (NFC and NFL) were sealed by intercepting passes from future HOF qbs. Does that mean Minnesota and Indy were superior?

No. Great defenses force turnovers. San Francisco mirrors LSU to an extent. Offense that is good enough to win. Defense that really gets it done though.
Posted by TomyDingo
Austin, Texas
Member since Aug 2003
19434 posts
Posted on 1/16/12 at 7:44 am to
Well the Saints lost and their season is over. Have fun at home! Geaux Niners!
Posted by TomyDingo
Austin, Texas
Member since Aug 2003
19434 posts
Posted on 1/16/12 at 7:45 am to
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San Francisco mirrors LSU to an extent. Offense that is good enough to win. Defense that really gets it done though.



Don't forget stellar special teams. I've been making the San Fran-LSU comparison all year.
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