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Posted on 7/13/11 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/13/11 at 4:59 pm to
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Jair Jurrjens rhp $5.5M


that's what i guessed.

quote:

Eric O’Flaherty lhp 3.062 $2.5M
Martin Prado 2b 3.105 $4.5 M



I guessed higher on Prado, but the same on E'OF.

I'm with you on Moylan... if his number stays low for injury, I'm fine with bringing him back, but if he wants 3 mil+, you let him walk.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:00 pm to
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Kimbrel and Venters I can see getting paid a ton of money down the road though, and I wouldn't have a huge problem with it.



no doubt. those kind of relievers don't come around very often. last year Giants gave Wilson a 2-year $15mil extension. (bought out a couple of his arbitration years). 6.5 in 2011 and 8.5 in 2012. i have no problem with those numbers.

also in the same deal Cain got 3 years, 27.5 mil. i could see those same numbers for Hanson eventually.
Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
15296 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:03 pm to
Just a thought, but what if we could get Bourn, Kepp and Myers for Lowe and Minor


Would we do it?
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:05 pm to
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I hope we can keep Kimbrel, Venters, AND EO'F but I doubt we will



Kimbrel and Venters are going nowhere. EOF will be a Brave through 2012, but if he continues pitching like he has this year, the Braves will collect their pick(s) and wish him luck in 2013.
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:06 pm to
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Just a thought, but what if we could get Bourn, Kepp and Myers for Lowe and Minor


Would we do it?



No
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:07 pm to
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I guessed higher on Prado


I believe he'll get a multi-year deal in the offseason. I'd expect year 1 to be around there, with a raise every year in the deal.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:08 pm to
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I believe he'll get a multi-year deal in the offseason. I'd expect year 1 to be around there, with a raise every year in the deal.




Good point.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 5:09 pm to
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You must love Scott Proctor.

Haha ;-)


His candy arse actually costs us 750K.

I'm talking about almost half that cheap.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 6:10 pm to
I just worked the numbers myself including projected arbitration and raises. Here's what I got:


2011 payroll: $91,476,750
2012 committed salary: $82,803,875 (McLouth, Linebrink, Gonzalez, Moylan, Sherrill, Proctor no longer with organization)
2013 committed salary: $26,000,000 (Uggla contract, McCann contract, Hudson buyout)
2014 committed salary: $13,000,000 (Uggla contract)
2015 committed salary: $13,000,000 (Uggla contract)
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 6:19 pm to
If Chipper retired (13M) and they could get somebody to take on the majority of Lowe's contract (9M or more), they could enter the Pujols bidding.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46346 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 6:30 pm to
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If Chipper retired (13M) and they could get somebody to take on the majority of Lowe's contract (9M or more), they could enter the Pujols bidding.



I don't think Pujols is going to get anywhere close to the money he is looking for, as crazy as that might sound.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 6:33 pm to
I was just joking about Pujols, but if Chipper does retire this offseason, we will have around $22M to spend this offseason.
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 6:44 pm to
With 3 holes to fill, or 2 if you see Schafer still on this team

Either way, this team isn't going to spend big money in free agency, especially with the amount of money we will be shelling out in the years after

Also, the outfield free agent class is pretty weak this year

Any big bat we get and pay for will come through a trade, and it will be someone who's contract expires in the next 3 years most likely.
Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
15296 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 6:47 pm to
Pujols will be in pinstripes
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 6:48 pm to
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With 3 holes to fill, or 2 if you see Schafer still on this team



SS, OF, OF or 3B, and a middle reliever or two. $22M is plenty to get quality at each of those positions.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46346 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

I was just joking about Pujols, but if Chipper does retire this offseason, we will have around $22M to spend this offseason.



The problem is that we have a lot of guys who are going to be commanding big raises in the subsequent offseasons.

My dream scenario...we win the WS on a Chipper Jones game 7 walk off home run, he retires, and Liberty Media sells the team to Arthur Blank, allowing us to keep basically anyone we want and sign anyone we want in free agency.

Chances of these things all happening....1 in 1,000,000,000.
Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
15296 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 6:50 pm to
We could get Jose Reyes kills 2 birds with 1 stone
Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
15296 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 6:51 pm to
Would be fricking epic. Thats for sure.
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 6:52 pm to
Quality, yes

a big name, no
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 7/13/11 at 6:52 pm to
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The problem is that we have a lot of guys who are going to be commanding big raises in the subsequent offseasons.


exactly
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