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re: The ATL Thread: All-Star Break Edition

Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:50 pm to
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Heyward, Freeman, Kimbrel, Beachy, Venters, Hanson, etc. are all making 400k. They won't make 400k their whole careers


Understood, but most are locked up for awhile. Don't see why we can't sign a big name in the very near future...
Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:51 pm to
Unless of course like Swamp said, we can hammer out some home discount contracts for most of those guys.

Hopefully they all enjoy ATL and like playing together.

And don't secretly hate each other like 31 and I do.
Posted by Hullabaloo
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:52 pm to
Because if we sign someone big, we wouldnt be able to keep them when it's time for them to get paid brah
Posted by SwampDonks
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:53 pm to
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Understood, but most are locked up for awhile.


teamwise, yes

but these guys are going to be hitting arbitration very soon and they will get payed pretty handsomely then

it's going to be hard for us to keep all of these guys intact without spending money elsewhere, on a "Evan Longoria" type. We might need a change of ownership just to keep our core guys together

We're going to be fairly cheap for the next couple years. But wait till 2014-2016 and the money we're going to have to spend is going to be crazy high
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Understood, but most are locked up for awhile. Don't see why we can't sign a big name in the very near future...



No major free agent is going to accept something like a 2 or 3 year contract though. By the time the young guys get to arbitration/free agency, anyone we sign this offseason or next will still be on the books.

Off topic, but does anyone know if Scott Boras represents anyone on our team besides Jurrjens?
Posted by The White Lobster
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:57 pm to
Hanson and D-Lowe
Posted by SwampDonks
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 1:58 pm to
Hanson
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 2:00 pm to
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Hanson


Well motherfricker....

We might not be able to keep either of them then.
Posted by SwampDonks
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

Don't see why we can't sign a big name in the very near future...



You'll get your guy when we trade Jurrjens

but it'll be someone who's off the books by the time 2015 rolls around most likely

Posted by SwampDonks
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 2:03 pm to
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We might not be able to keep either of them then.


We'll afford one, which is why you always hear JJ trade rumors

the team values Hanson more, and if we're not going to be able to keep JJ, then why not trade him when his value is at his highest point

this team NEEDS to win a championship in the next 4 years, and I think it will
Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 2:06 pm to
The Hanson saga is going to be interesting to watch. He's the Braves wonder boy who's being guided by the greatest of enemies (Boras). Will Bravos waive their "won't deal with Boras" clause?
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 2:11 pm to
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We'll afford one, which is why you always hear JJ trade rumors



You sure about that? If Hanson is a Boras client, chances are he is going to wait and see what his market value is. If he continues to improve as a player, that could take us out of contention.
Posted by SwampDonks
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 2:13 pm to
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Will Bravos waive their "won't deal with Boras" clause?


we signed Lowe
Posted by SwampDonks
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 2:13 pm to
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You sure about that?


yes

one of these pitchers will be with the Braves long term, one won't

I promise you that
Posted by The White Lobster
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 2:14 pm to
We did with D-Lowe, but we were really desperate for pitching.

4 years/$60,000,000
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 2:26 pm to
I'll just believe it when I see it. I don't trust our front office to play Boras' games. He's going to shoot for the moon and we are basically going to have to cross our fingers and hope he doesn't get it. The problem is that teams like the Yankees and Red Sox can afford to pay a guy more than he is worth to ensure that they get him. We can't. Unless that guy happens to be a mediocre sinker baller who is being paid ace money despite being a back of the rotation pitcher.
Posted by lsu31always
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 2:29 pm to
I don't hate anyone. I hate stupidity. Something that you possess a massive amount.
Posted by SwampDonks
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 2:45 pm to
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@CapitolAvenue
Peter the Great
If Rasmus is worth acquiring he's not available. The Cardinals know what they're doing.

Extremely well said
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/12/11 at 3:05 pm to
very true
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