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The amount of players that shot underhanded is probably 10 or 20. With an exponentially larger player pool, of course the top 10 is going to be mostly overhanded shooters.

So who was the next best underhand free throw shooter then? We all know Rick Berry, but there has to be another one somewhere that shot just as good if that is the better, more natural position.

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Posted by Walking the Earth

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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:48 pm to SPEEDY

Well, the argument falls apart long before you even get to the statistics with the talk about the "natural position"

Lots of motions with the ball across all sports are made with "unnatural" motions. And, sure, throwing the football sidearm (more naturally) may work for some players but nobody would recommend you coach that way.

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Posted by SPEEDY

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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:57 pm to Walking the Earth

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the talk about the "natural position"

That is mentioned only because Barry refers to the unnatural position of an overhead shot

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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:58 pm to tigerpawl

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Which one of these 2 "situations" has the highest probability of converting, irrespective of the clock? And why...

idk if you're trying to say the probability is the same, but B is higher because you have more plays available to you at that point in the field (both because of space to work with and consequences of missing)

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Posted by tigerpawl

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Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:59 pm to Walking the Earth

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Well, the argument falls apart long before you even get to the statistics with the talk about the "natural position"

Consider this: in a regular game environment (during a play), there is a need to shoot overhand in order to get the ball over the outstretched hand of the opponent - quickly. In that scenario, overhand is logically the best way. However, for free throws, the game environment slows to a grinding halt, presenting the opportunity to use the more productive (debatable) underhand method. I agree with the previous posts that make the point where underhand shooters represent a microscopic sampling and therefore should not be used to compare the success rate between the 2 methods.

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