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re: Rockets make Asik unavailable for tonight
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:02 pm to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:02 pm to tiggerthetooth
A lottery pick in the 2014 draft is an unreasonable request for a guy who's refusing to play for the Rockets and who's never been an All Star. I like him a lot and would like for the Pelicans to acquire him, but the Rockets are asking a lot right now.
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Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:04 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Rockets general manager Daryl Morey is asking for an “impact player” in talks about the disgruntled big man, but he would settle for a lottery pick, according to Yahoo!’s sources.
I'm 95% sure its impact player OR 1st round pick, which isn't unreasonable at all considering Asik averaged a double-double his first season as a starter. Most NBA draft picks cannot assure a similar output.
Could the Pelicans offer the 2016 top protected pick
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:07 pm to hendersonshands
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A lottery pick in the 2014 draft is an unreasonable request for a guy who's refusing to play for the Rockets and who's never been an All Star. I like him a lot and would like for the Pelicans to acquire him, but the Rockets are asking a lot right now.
So most NBA lottery picks average a double-double? Is that what you're saying? And most lottery picks end up as All-Stars? How could Asik make the All-Star game in his position? Clearly not a flashy player, first year as a starter on a team that had a total of 3 nationally televised games (not all had even been played by ASB), in the west with Howard, Duncan, Nowitzki, Aldridge….so he's not a high value guy just because he doesn't win All-Star votes over those guys? That's not exactly how I would go about making decisions as a GM, by using a fan vote in one season to judge value.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:10 pm to ralsu
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Could the Pelicans offer the 2016 top protected pick
If the Rockets accepted that offer then I'm inclined to think Morey is just trying to rid himself of Asik, but I don't think he's that desperate despite the fact that Asik won't play. Let's be honest though, Asik only screws himself by not playing. Not only will he not play, but teams won't trust his value if they can't see him producing at the level he did last season.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:16 pm to hendersonshands
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I feel like the Rockets really had no plan for what they'd do with Asik if they got Howard. Ah frick it, we'll figure it out later
Do you even follow the Rockets at all? They were definitely exploring options once they got Howard and you're a fool if you don't think Morey is always looking around. There was nothing they could get for Asik at the time that was worth making a move for. You have to remember, Asik has more value than what he's getting paid. They needed a PF, but there were none available in the off-season that would be of note, and this upcoming FA class has some good PF's in it. He was waiting for the season to start to not only see if the current roster could fit together, but to wait and see if a PF with high value becomes available because some team is afraid of letting him go in FA, or the guy is disgruntled, or because a team is doing so poorly they are rebuilding and just want to clear cap space for the upcoming draft, which is supposedly loaded. They definitely had a plan, but they sure as shite weren't just going to throw his value away just because Asik wanted out. Morey set the CAP up to sign a guy like Howard BEFORE 2012-13. They didn't just luck out and sign him, it was always in the works. He knows what the frick he's doing. He's already fleeced OKC, NYK, and SAC.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:18 pm to tiggerthetooth
Ilyasova, sons
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:21 pm to PortCityTiger24
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Ilyasova, sons
Add in a pick and I'll accept to give us more PF depth, but also to add some assets if we want to make another move.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:22 pm to tiggerthetooth
You won't get a pick plus Ilyasova.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:24 pm to hendersonshands
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I feel like the Rockets really had no plan for what they'd do with Asik if they got Howard. Ah frick it, we'll figure it out later
Typical Pelicans fan comment
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:29 pm to Fun Bunch
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You won't get a pick plus Ilyasova.
What makes you think that? Asik is a much better player at $9 million/yr as a proven starting center , Ersan is at $2.15 million per year. The value isn't there for Mil, they need more than just one guy. Houston would be a fool to make that trade straight up.
Also, Ersan has shown his value as a starter in multiple seasons…Asik had one season with starter's minutes and he improved DRAMATICALLY. He could produce even more if he continues to get starters' minutes. Ersan has not shown similar signs that he could improve dramatically.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:30 pm to Big Moe
Ryno is dealing tonight.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:36 pm to Fun Bunch
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Ryno is dealing tonight
Send him to Htown
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:38 pm to PortCityTiger24
Your fellow Rocketards are a mad bunch. I always imagined that being a fan of a super team is a lot of fun
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:54 pm to hendersonshands
I can't control them!
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:55 pm to PortCityTiger24
fwiw
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:10 pm to boXerrumble
The offense is thriving with D-Mo getting Asik's minutes
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:19 pm to boXerrumble
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They want an impact player and a first round pick supposedly.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:20 pm to LosLobos111
Impact player OR 1st round pick
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:25 pm to Big Moe
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Rockets make Asik unavailable for tonight
Impact player OR 1st round pick
Its not like we talked about this already, geez.
All he had to do was scan the 1st page.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:33 pm to tiggerthetooth
Pels fans see a Rockets thread; time to start hating
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 8:38 pm
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