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re: ridiculous poll bias
Posted on 12/7/08 at 3:59 pm to Alahunter
Posted on 12/7/08 at 3:59 pm to Alahunter
You are not ahead of us in the Sagarin predictor which is the only computer poll worth a damn. Whenever I refer to Sagarin's poll I always refer to the Predictor unless I specifically say otherwise.
Predictor ratings
USC 99.9
Bama 89.5
We are over 10 points better than you. If we played on a neutral field, guess what that is about where the point spread would be.
Predictor ratings
USC 99.9
Bama 89.5
We are over 10 points better than you. If we played on a neutral field, guess what that is about where the point spread would be.
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Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:02 pm to MJRuffalo
bottom line is this.....if you play in a shitty conference with no conference championship game, you better win all your games.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:04 pm to MJRuffalo
Predictor is no ELO-Chess. That is what the BCS goes by. Right now, we are ahead of you. 
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:05 pm to Alahunter
I know. The predictor is by far the better system though, the bcs does not use it as it factors in MOV>
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:05 pm to MJRuffalo
quote:
I severely underestimated the ridiculous Pro-SEC bias in the human polls. I must say that I am very surprised to see Bama who lost yesterday by more points than USC has lost by in 7 years to see them ahead of us in the AP poll and tied with us in the Coaches poll. The SEC has proven to be overall pretty weak this season, but they still get all the media love.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:06 pm to MJRuffalo
the BCS uses the ELO_CHESS from here
Alabama 87.25 6 Rank
Usuc 85.77 7 Rank
It must really suck to see everything you have used all season to point to Usc being a lesser team.
Alabama 87.25 6 Rank
Usuc 85.77 7 Rank
It must really suck to see everything you have used all season to point to Usc being a lesser team.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:07 pm to MJRuffalo
The real bottom line is that Oregon State had to go and mess it up for the rest of us, keeping us from answering this question for real.
So have fun in yet another Rose Bowl clobbering yet another Big 10 team. Then next year, when you lose to Wazzu or UCLA or California College for the Deaf, you can beat your chest and piss and moan about how you are so much better than the rest of the SEC with nothing to show for it.
So have fun in yet another Rose Bowl clobbering yet another Big 10 team. Then next year, when you lose to Wazzu or UCLA or California College for the Deaf, you can beat your chest and piss and moan about how you are so much better than the rest of the SEC with nothing to show for it.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:09 pm to Alahunter
Jesus fricking christ you are an idiot. I have never and will never use the elo-chess to prove a point. I always use the predictor is more data is used and a more realistic evaluation can occur.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:10 pm to MJRuffalo
That one's from Alabama, Ruffalo. Cut him some slack.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:11 pm to MJRuffalo
And you use the AP all season too. Where's that got you?
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:14 pm to MJRuffalo
quote:
I severely underestimated the ridiculous Pro-SEC bias in the human polls. I must say that I am very surprised to see Bama who lost yesterday by more points than USC has lost by in 7 years to see them ahead of us in the AP poll and tied with us in the Coaches poll. The SEC has proven to be overall pretty weak this season, but they still get all the media love.
It is absolutely disgusting.
A USC fan complaining about human bias?
I just
Your one signature win this entire season was against a team without their best player (one of the top 5-10 players in all of college football) and a starting QB that was absolutely pathetic, prompting them to make the change to a talented true freshman midway through the game... who had never played much on the collegiate level.
And you lost to a team that lost to Penn State by about 30.
The Pac-10 was laughable this season. You have nothing to complain about.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:18 pm to Alahunter
AP? No I didn't use the AP all year at all. Do you just like making shite up or what?
I personally think that the AP, coaches, and Harris poll are all trash.
I personally think that the AP, coaches, and Harris poll are all trash.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:20 pm to MJRuffalo
You've used it almost every week to justify beating a top 25 team. The amount of delusion on your part and inability to admit how wrong you were is priceless.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:21 pm to Alahunter
quote:
I personally think that the AP, coaches, and Harris poll are all trash.
so do you still consider USC the 2003 NC's?
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:21 pm to MJRuffalo
quote:
I post facts.
ANd HE JUST FACTED YOUR arse RUFF!!!
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:25 pm to geaux1227
USC was the AP poll champ in 2003 and LSU was the coaches Poll champ. They are equal
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:26 pm to MJRuffalo
yep, the SEC grabs so much of the national bias that we even have posters from other conferences rack up more than 5,000 posts on our message boards ... 
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:26 pm to MJRuffalo
quote:
They are equal, except that I personally think that the AP, coaches, and Harris poll are all trash
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:26 pm to Alahunter
Actually you are wrong again. I guess I can't blame you, you being from Alabama puts you at a signifiacnt intellectual disadvantage. Whenever I cited poll numbers I used the bcs poll.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 4:26 pm to MJRuffalo
quote:
I severely underestimated the ridiculous Pro-SEC bias in the human polls. I must say that I am very surprised to see Bama who lost yesterday by more points than USC has lost by in 7 years to see them ahead of us in the AP poll and tied with us in the Coaches poll.
I don't have a problem with anyone who wants to rank Florida, OU, Texas, Bama, USC in whatever order mostly... My personal bias is that Florida, Texas, or OU is the #1 and I'll be damned if I personally can tell how good USC is (considering the level of competition they haven't faced)
And WTF? You are a USC fan... I'd think it's all about wanting to be #1... why waste your time arguing if you should be ahead of a team that is not #1 or 2?
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