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Question about Field Goal Kicking in NFL

Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:25 pm
Posted by beantown
Nashville
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:25 pm
I was just watching a video about some kid kicking a field goal 80 yds on the practice field. Obviously this only worked because the trajectory is different without a defensive line there to block it.

However, it got me thinking. I know the usual setup is 7 yds behind the line of scrimmage when kicking a field goal, but I don’t think there’s any actual rule how far back you can setup. I was wondering would it be possible to set the ball up further back from the LOS in order to increase the distance by changing the trajectory? If you miss, you still turn the ball over where the ball was kicked but this would allow you to take longer chances. Thoughts?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:26 pm to
Well first off, I promise you that kid was kicking off a tee
Posted by beantown
Nashville
Member since Sep 2015
3429 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:27 pm to
Dammit that’s a good point
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:31 pm to
The directional margin of error is much lower. At 80 yards you have to kick within a 4 degree angle to get it between the uprights.

80 is close to the max distance. You have to hit exactly the tight part of the ball with exactly the right part of the foot and the foot needs to be moving about 53 mph at the point of contact.

There are good YouTube videos on the physics.
Posted by beantown
Nashville
Member since Sep 2015
3429 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 7:35 pm to
I believe a pro could do all of those things.
Posted by Deplorable Duke
Lousyana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 10/14/19 at 9:35 pm to
The drop kick is the wave of the future. Gavin Lasseigne of Nicholls State will revolutionize this. Trust me.
Posted by beantown
Nashville
Member since Sep 2015
3429 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:25 am to
Do those count for field goals?...
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:39 am to
quote:

I was wondering would it be possible to set the ball up further back from the LOS in order to increase the distance by changing the trajectory?


The center can't accurately snap the ball backwards 20 yards. The further back you have to snap it, it gets pretty much exponentially harder to make an accurate snap.

The low arse odds of making a super long FG combined with the low arse odds of making a good snap to even try the kick make the purposed play completely stupid. You're better off punting or trying a hail mary.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 2:50 am
Posted by reggo75
Iowa, LA
Member since Jan 2016
1433 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:47 am to
If you miss you also give the other team the ball well within their FG range.
Posted by Arch Madness
Charleston
Member since Jan 2018
1059 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:24 am to
Time to sign Carli Lloyd. Sounds like you just figured out the system
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17604 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:46 am to
There are rules for what makes a scrimmage kick formation legal.
Posted by Deplorable Duke
Lousyana
Member since Nov 2016
2619 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:52 am to
The drop kick counts just as much as the “regular” kick, except the drop kick is a throwback to the glory days of football... when the game was played by real men.. and not dominated by divas and decided by referees.
Posted by beantown
Nashville
Member since Sep 2015
3429 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

The center can't accurately snap the ball backwards 20 yards.


Don't they snap it 15 yds to the punter on a consistent basis?
Posted by beantown
Nashville
Member since Sep 2015
3429 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

There are rules for what makes a scrimmage kick formation legal.




Where is the rule that says how far back you must set up? I don't see anything that specifies the distance of the kicker from the ball.

quote:

Item 2: Field Goal or Try Kick Formation.
When Team A presents a field goal or Try Kick formation:

A Team B player, who is within one yard of the line of scrimmage, must have his entire body outside the snapper’s shoulder pads at the snap.

No more than six Team B players may be on the line of scrimmage on either side of the snapper at the snap.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

Don't they snap it 15 yds to the punter on a consistent basis?


A lot more margin for error snapping to someone that is standing up and not kneeling. Not tom mention needing to get the ball down properly so the kicker even has a chance to hit the perfect kick that would be required. all with a rush coming at them. What could go wrong
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