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re: Perfect Case in this Article for Why Joe Paterno should resign/be fired
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:12 pm to STEVED00
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:12 pm to STEVED00
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PSU gambled that this would just go away instead of dealing with it when it first came about and taking the initial hit. This is about arrogance that you are untouchable.
That definitely doesn't make sense. Especially if they were covering shite up...why allow him to continue to be around if you know he's capable of bad shite. It's just a recipe for disaster that is coming to light in the coming weeks. Not that it would absolve them from it all, but cutting ties with this a-hole would seem like the obvious thing to do. Weird shite.
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:12 pm to CocomoLSU
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Didn't you even say yourself that campus police were called
Campus police were not called in the 2002 incident. There was a police investigation into the 1998 incident which resulted in Sandusky retiring at the ripe old age of 55. Interesting thing about that retirement. He was given "emiritus" status which allowed him access to everything as though he were still an actual employee.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:13 pm to Lester Earl
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everyone in this thread is ready to crucify Paterno over this.
I don't. In fact I'm content with him staying if the Attorney General isn't going to bring charges against him and specifically said he handled his responsibilities properly. If they are going to charge Joe with failure to report like they did to Curley and Schultz then I'll change my opinion. Until then they're innocent until proven guilty.
Until this all shakes out it's impossible to know exactly who knew what.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:13 pm to CocomoLSU
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Nah, at least I am not. I am just saying let's get all the facts straight before casting stones.
I am fine with that. We know JoPa and McQueary knew and didn't go to authorities who would have investigated.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:14 pm to Nittany Lion
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I don't. In fact I'm content with him staying if the Attorney General isn't going to bring charges against him and specifically said he handled his responsibilities properly. If they are going to charge Joe with failure to report like they did to Curley and Schultz then I'll change my opinion. Until then they're innocent until proven guilty.
This is not about breaking the law. Its about right and wrong.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:14 pm to Nittany Lion
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As The Second Mile's CEO Jack Raykovitz testified to the Grand Jury, he was informed in 2002 by Pennsylvania State University Athletic Director Tim Curley that an individual had reported to Mr. Curley that he was uncomfortable about seeing Jerry Sandusky in the locker room shower with a youth. Mr. Curley also shared that the information had been internally reviewed and that there was no finding of wrongdoing. At no time was The Second Mile made aware of the very serious allegations contained in the Grand Jury report.
So it was reported, investigated and there was no finding of wrongdoing? Hmmm.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:16 pm to STEVED00
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I just hope the media digs into to this and doesn't just give him a pass.
I agree with that. And in this day in age, where every single thing is brought to light (well, almost every one) and scrutinized on FB, Twitter, talking-head shows, etc., I think it will. It's already too big to just "go away." And JoePa's reputation and legacy is definitely on the line depending on where it all goes. IMO the media will be more apt to bust him than simply give him a pass. Also, because of the nature of the alleged actions, it makes it harder to sweep under the rug (now). We'll see though.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:17 pm to Nittany Lion
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So it was reported, investigated and there was no finding of wrongdoing? Hmmm.
Investigated and reported by the AD & the other guy being charged. This was not a law enforcement investigation.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:17 pm to CocomoLSU
journalistic careers are made on stories like this
it will not be let go
it will not be let go
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:18 pm to jonboy
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This was not a law enforcement investigation.
That was my next thought...probably the university. They shouldn't have handled this in- house. That's where the charges against Curley and Schultz make complete sense.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:19 pm to Sophandros
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They aren't the real police
They are "real police."
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because the guy who runs their organization COVERED THE SITUATION UP, and that's why he turned himself in today.
That doesn't matter. Real police can (and do) cover shite up too.
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It's completely unreasonable to assume that JoePa had nothing to do with all this.
We agree on that. But he allegedly submitted what he knew to his superiors. Stop pretending like he just sat there and did nothing at all.
You're pretending like I'm saying JoePa is completely innocent and deserves no culpability. All I'm saying is that his level of involvement is unknown at this point, and that his actions are not on the same level as the one committing the actual crimes.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:20 pm to Nittany Lion
well that'd be better. University Park and State College PD are just terrible 
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:20 pm to hashtag
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Everyone who knew and did not notify the authorities enabled the rapes to continue. They gave the mf'er a key so that he could still use the showers that he raped the kids in. This is extreme negligence at the least.
We agree on that. No doubt.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:20 pm to CocomoLSU
Local news has it 50/50 on their poll of whether Joe should step down out of a couple thousand votes.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:21 pm to CocomoLSU
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They aren't the real police
yea, tell that to all the kids they arrest year in and out
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:21 pm to Nittany Lion
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Until this all shakes out it's impossible to know exactly who knew what.
Exactly. But people in this thread already pretend to know exactly what went down, who should be blamed, and most of the details.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:22 pm to Grabo
This entire story is disgusting. Who are these people? 
If you see something like that...you go to the authorities and report it. And if that doesn't get results, you go to the FBI or whoever until that sick bastard is arrested, charged, convicted and gone. The years that have passed is the most damning evidence against all those 'in the know'. Just disgusting.
If you see something like that...you go to the authorities and report it. And if that doesn't get results, you go to the FBI or whoever until that sick bastard is arrested, charged, convicted and gone. The years that have passed is the most damning evidence against all those 'in the know'. Just disgusting. Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:22 pm to Nittany Lion
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They shouldn't have handled this in- house
What's most perplexing is that had they acted swiftly and called the police, all involved (except Sandusky) would have come out unscathed.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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We know JoPa and McQueary knew and didn't go to authorities who would have investigated.
Well, we know JP went to his superiors. If they went to the police and things were covered up, then that puts the onus a bit more on them IMO. Like Nittany said, JP not being charged is huge for his defense, and I agree with that.
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