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re: Merril Hodge would pick Big Ben over Brees/Rogers
Posted on 8/24/11 at 3:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/24/11 at 3:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
Top 5 right now?
1a. Brady
1b. Eli
3. Ben
4. Peyton
5. Ryan
1a. Brady
1b. Eli
3. Ben
4. Peyton
5. Ryan
3
Posted on 8/24/11 at 3:18 pm to BilJ
quote:It's the easiest, laziest, and least convincing argument anybody can make. Coincidentally, it's the pet argument of ESPN's dumbest hack analysts.
It amazes me how many dumbasses come with the ring comments anytime Ben isn't mentioned with the elite.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 3:18 pm to wilceaux
He's actually got a point. The Pats offense last season was based on short passes and yards after the catch.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 3:19 pm to BilJ
Who is saying Ben is with the "elite"?
I said Ben is behind the elite (Brady, Rodgers, Manning, Brees) + fringe top five
He's a better Quarterback than people on this board give him credit for
I said Ben is behind the elite (Brady, Rodgers, Manning, Brees) + fringe top five
He's a better Quarterback than people on this board give him credit for
Posted on 8/24/11 at 3:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Manning
Rivers - first in offense and defense last year and they don't make the playoffs - but worst in the league in special teams. Only 1996 Packers and 1972 Dolphins have been first in both categories (I think.)
Big Ben
Rodgers
Brees
Manning
Rivers - first in offense and defense last year and they don't make the playoffs - but worst in the league in special teams. Only 1996 Packers and 1972 Dolphins have been first in both categories (I think.)
Big Ben
This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 8/24/11 at 3:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
Did he say "in the National Football League" a thousand times, instead of just saying NFL?
Posted on 8/24/11 at 3:22 pm to Zamoro10
Brees was 32/39? with at least one drop and at least one spike
Posted on 8/24/11 at 3:23 pm to bddwolfpack
I agree that Ben is a damn good quarterback. Here are the quarterbacks ranked by career rating:
Rodgers 98.4
Rivers 97.2
Romo 95.5
Brady 95.2
Manning 94.9
Roethlisberger 92.5
Brees 91.7
Schaub 91.5
Flacco 87.9
Ryan 86.9
Garrard 85.8
McNabb 85.7
Rodgers 98.4
Rivers 97.2
Romo 95.5
Brady 95.2
Manning 94.9
Roethlisberger 92.5
Brees 91.7
Schaub 91.5
Flacco 87.9
Ryan 86.9
Garrard 85.8
McNabb 85.7
Posted on 8/24/11 at 3:31 pm to TulaneTigerFan
quote:
The Pats offense last season was based on short passes and yards after the catch
And it was based around a sub par group of receivers. Deion Branch had his best season in five years since leaving NE. Welker had another solid season even though he probably wasn't 100% the majority of the year. Hernandez and Gronkowski were primary targets for the majority of the season. Even Woodhead and Brandon Tate were utilized a great deal.
Brady outperformed everyone last year without a whole lot of big time targets.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 3:37 pm to AlexLSU
He had a great season, but it's still overrated. I've seen people on here call it his best ever, which is ludicrous. He threw a bunch of accurate 5 yard passes and protected the ball.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 3:39 pm to bddwolfpack
quote:
He's a fringe top 5 QB in the League
this
Posted on 8/24/11 at 3:51 pm to TulaneTigerFan
quote:
He had a great season, but it's still overrated.
It's not overrated if you compare it to the last couple of seasons. It's not the greatest season ever, but he had by far the best season of anyone in the NFL last year.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 3:58 pm to AlexLSU
To his last couple of season or all QBs? I agree with ESPN's new qb rating that has Brees 09, Manning 09, and Manning 08 over Brady's 10
Posted on 8/24/11 at 3:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
Heard this...the dude's giant necktie knot is decreasing the circulation to his brain.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 4:00 pm to bddwolfpack
quote:
He's a fringe top 5 QB in the League
Sure.
But he's still not better than the 2 best QBs in the league...
Posted on 8/24/11 at 4:01 pm to ZTiger87
quote:
1a. Brady
1b. Eli
3. Ben
4. Peyton
5. Ryan
sarcasm?
Posted on 8/24/11 at 4:03 pm to ZTiger87
quote:
Top 5 right now?
1a. Brady
1b. Eli
3. Ben
4. Peyton
5. Ryan
:lol: 
Posted on 8/24/11 at 4:05 pm to OBUDan
I never claimed he was
As I stated earlier, I don't defend/agree with Hodge
As I stated earlier, I don't defend/agree with Hodge
Posted on 8/24/11 at 4:14 pm to Sophandros
1. Brady
2. Rogers
3. Brees
4. Manning
5. Rothlisberger
2. Rogers
3. Brees
4. Manning
5. Rothlisberger
Posted on 8/24/11 at 4:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
he said big ben's movement outside the pocket separated him
I agree to a point. He is a big dude and is hard to bring down. However the Pitt offense is not geared to have the passing stats that the Saints and Packers O are designed to do.
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