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Max Scherzer

Posted on 7/8/13 at 1:44 pm
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 1:44 pm
Does he go 14-0 today? Is he the favorite for the Cy Young? He actually has the 2nd best ERA (3.09) on the team of starters (and Verlander isn't #1).

Scherzer has always been pretty hit or miss with the tigers. I am curious if he stays string the 2nd half. I expect Verlander to pick of the slack he falls a bit.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 1:46 pm to
Dude is a beast right now. Must be the eyes.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 1:46 pm to
Probably and yes.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

Does he go 14-0 today?


No

quote:

Is he the favorite for the Cy Young?


No

quote:

ports Illustrated's Cliff Corcoran, who examines the awards races in baseball, took a whack at the Cy Young race. He wrote: "Scherzer is enjoying an excellent season, but at the moment, he doesn't even top the ... rankings of contenders for the honor of being the AL's best pitcher." Corcoran said that the way Clay Buchholz was pitching, he was the leader but has been out for a month now with a bad shoulder. The writer's No. 1 right now is Seattle's Hisashi Iwakuma (7-3, 2.42 ERA, 0.88 WHIP (walks and hits per innings pitched) and a 5.94 strikeout-to-walk ratio). However, in his last four starts, he's 1-2 with a 4.00 ERA. So Scherzer's No. 2, right? Wrong. Corcoran has the Rangers' Yu Darvish in that spot. He's 8-3 with a 2.78 ERA, a 1.02 WHIP and a 12.0 strikeout-per-nine innings rate. But, in his last four weeks, the Texas ace is 1-4 with a 2.81 ERA. Then comes Scherzer, whose numbers (13-0, 3.09 ERA, 0.92 WHIP, 10.7 strikeout-per-nine and 5.35 strikeout-to-walk) have been elevated by his last four weeks. The AL player of the month for June is 6-0 in the last four weeks. Corcoran: "Scherzer isn't on this list because he's 13-0. He's here because of the way he's pitched en route to that perfect mark. He has pounded the strike zone, kept runners off base and runs off the board while going deep in to games (11 of his 17 starts have lasted seven or more innings). He's also been remarkably consistent. Scherzer's last nine starts have all been quality. He earned the win in eight of them and deserved the win in the ninth as well. He didn't, however, deserve a win when he allowed five runs in five innings on April 24, but he got one anyway."
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 1:51 pm to
People don't care about that BS. If he goes 28-0 with a 3.00 ERA he is winning the Cy Young.
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11346 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 1:52 pm to
I think he is the Cy Young favorite. I would personally go with him or Felix, and given that many voters still think W-L is a meaningful stat, I think that makes the favorite at this point.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

People don't care about that BS


If the award was given by the fans, I would agree. Its not though. Baseball writers are huge nerds.

He isnt going to go anywhere near 28-0, though.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 1:55 pm to
Even if you ignore win-loss records, Scherzer is having a sick year. Outside of Yu, Scherzer can k them up as well as anyone. He has a very low ERA and good numbers all around.

I don't the want the Cy to be predicated on a win loss record, but I would be fine with him winning it because his peripherals are excellent.
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11346 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

If the award was given by the fans, I would agree. Its not though. Baseball writers are huge nerds.


If the majority of voters were nerds, Mike Trout would have a MVP trophy.

But as Vick said, Max really has a case for the award even if his W-L was 8-5.
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 2:04 pm to
For a while his ERA was pretty average, but has brought it down; 3.09 shouldn't ruin his chances of a Cy Young imo if he finishes with a sick record. 20 wins is almost a certainty (barring an injury) and if he wins 22+ I think he will win it easily.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 2:04 pm to
Miggy was titty skin last year. I believe he had a higher runs created than Trout. I believe that Miggy was marginally better at the plate in 2012, but Trout was better everywhere else. Also, Miggy played more games, so he was way more valuable at the beginning of the season. Yes, you do have to penalize the gap in games played.
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36302 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 2:09 pm to
Underlying stats say his ERA is actually inflated. I think his WHIP goes up a tick and his ERA comes down a tick.
This post was edited on 7/8/13 at 2:11 pm
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 2:12 pm to
Yeah, he is 2nd in the AL in WHIP (0.92) and 2nd in strikeouts (139)
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11346 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 2:25 pm to
My point wasn’t that Trout should have won (although I do think he should have), it was that if nerds really made up the majority of voters, he would have. Because every single baseball “nerd” I read last year was on team Trout.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 2:36 pm to
I think the gap was overstated. A lot of his case with numbers dealt with defensive metrics, which I find a little hard to trust. I also don't like WAR when you are comparing totally different players. They have different roles.

I would have voted for Miggy because I thought he had a better year at the plate (better OPS and shite), but the case for Trout was also easy to make. Miggy playing more games made a big difference for me. I have loved watching Miggy for a long time as well, so I was biased.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

Does he go 14-0 today?

Probably
quote:

Is he the favorite for the Cy Young?

Absolutely


The awards are a long way from engraved though.
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 7:53 pm to
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