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re: Let's talk about the next Cajuns head coach - not Crowton

Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:22 pm to
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:22 pm to
Didn't mean to be I know I gave you a hard time today but ULL is the name right?
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:24 pm to
Right, but the same can be said for most University of _______. 95% of people from Lafayette say UL.
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:26 pm to
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95% of people from Lafayette say UL.

95% of Lafayette are wrong. If you go to LSUE do you say you go to LSU?
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:29 pm to
If you go to UT-Austin do you say UT? If you go to UNC-Chapel Hill do you say UNC? If you go to University of Wisconsin-Madison, do you say UW?


No one down here gives a shite about ULM, so we say UL and everyone knows what we're talking about.
Posted by occstud
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:30 pm to
Dana Holgorsen. Offensive coordinator of Oklahoma State. Formerly with the University of Houston under Kevin Sumlin. This is a slam dunk hire.
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:32 pm to
quote:

If you go to UT-Austin do you say UT? If you go to UNC-Chapel Hill do you say UNC? If you go to University of Wisconsin-Madison, do you say UW?

UT-Austin isn't the name of the school that is simply it's location. The name of ULL is University of Louisiana at Lafayette.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:36 pm to
The name of the school is the University of Texas at Austin

Posted by Factsman
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:36 pm to
kaboom
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:39 pm to
That is simply distinguishing it from it's sister campus'. ULL is legally required to use ULL by the state of Louisiana. Don't be embarrassed to call your school by it's real name.
Posted by Factsman
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:40 pm to
premature boom?
Posted by LordSaintly
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:43 pm to
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ULL is legally required to use ULL


Technically, our school doesn't recognize "ULL" as an official abbreviation. That's why you won't see "ULL" on any of our official merchandise or sports uniforms.

ULM is a different story.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:43 pm to
Texas has a University of Texas system. Louisiana has a University of Louisiana system. UT's name is UT at Austin, they legally can go by UT in athletics because they're the flagship. Our name is UL Lafayette and we go by UL because we don't care what UL Monroe says.



Any rational person would see that we should be the flagship of the UL Sytem, it's just typical dirty Louisiana politics keeping the UL system without a flagship.



Before any moron comments, I KNOW LSU is the flagship of Louisiana, but they are not in the UL system.
Posted by Factsman
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:44 pm to
cause ulm doesnt mond being ulm
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:45 pm to
Because ULM is just happy that it's allowed to stay open and compete in D1 athletics.
Posted by Factsman
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:45 pm to
very true
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:46 pm to
The LSU Rule required that at least two state universities change their name at the same time.
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It required that all universities who change their name change it to “University of Louisiana at [city designation].” It stipulated that the city designation must be used in all official university business and has since grown far beyond its original legislative language, to regulate minute details such as font sizes to be used by the respective universities. Additionally, the bill insisted that LSU was, and would remain, the "flagship university" of Louisiana.

From the Ragin Pagin website which I'm sure is unbiased towards LSU.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:48 pm to
This is what happened, dirty Louisiana politics at its best --

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After years of achievement and leadership in higher education and five years of planning and lobbying, UL President Dr. Ray Authement was rewarded for his determination on April 27, 1984 as the Board of Trustees for State Colleges and Universities voted by a 17-1 margin to drop the “Southwestern” from USL’s name. On that date, the University of Southwestern Louisiana became THE University of Louisiana.

By that time, USL’s name had become a hindrance to further advancement and improvement among universities. UL had outgrown its double-directional name. UL’s enrollment was at 16,000 students, which made it one of the two largest schools in the three-state region of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Arkansas. It was a comprehensive university and had students from all 50 states and 100 countries enrolled. UL lead the state in professional and certification exams in many fields including engineering, nursing, and education. The University of Louisiana had received national recognition for their computer science program and was a charter member of NCAA Division I-A Football.

The name didn’t last long, however, as traditional Louisiana university politics, with its long history of paranoia and infighting, became a factor. Some administrators at other state schools worried that UL’s new name would diminish their image. According to Baton Rouge’s Morning Advocate, LSU Chancellor James H. Wharton said he is concerned that “the new name will result in the university’s expansion” (April 28, 1984). Ironically, the arguments against UL had a familiar ring since they were used in 1960 when Southwestern Louisiana Institute upgraded to university status and became the University of Southwestern Louisiana.

In May of 1984, the Board Regents, with the strong support of powerful LSU backers on and off the Board, took the issue to district court, asserting that only the Louisiana Legislature could rename state universities. They won as District Judge William H. Brown agreed with the plaintiffs and stripped the University of Louisiana of its new name. Although Judge Brown was an alumnus of LSU, and an active supporter of that school, he did not recuse himself from the case despite this apparent conflict of interest. He ruled against the name change despite clear constitutional language confirming both the name change and the way it was handled, despite an opinion from the State Attorney General, and despite the legal precedent of other state schools who had changed their names through the same course of action. For example, when LSUNO changed its name to UNO, it only received approval from the LSU Board of Supervisors. UL, however, was ordered to revert to USL on May 22, 1984 and Louisiana remained only one of two states to not have a University of State. Soon after and in specific response to this case, the state legislature changed state law to require that only the legislature could change the name of state colleges and universities.
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 11:50 pm
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:51 pm to
In all honesty I think USL sounds better. Sounds like USC.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:55 pm to
I think the name should be UL because I think ULM isn't a necessary college in a small state like Louisiana. We should have - LSU, UL, Louisiana Tech, then whatever private schools.
Posted by bamfchris
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:57 pm to
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