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re: Lebron went from thinking he was on top of the world

Posted on 6/5/21 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by Stidham8
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Posted on 6/5/21 at 1:31 pm to
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I’m not exactly sure what you are trying to say about Lebron. He’s 36. He’s old. He can’t do what he did when he was 30 or even 33. Are you using this as a way to discredit him?

Are you saying he’s can’t be the GOAT of basketball because in year 18, with more minutes than anyone ever in this time, and at 36 years old, he sucks because he did not dominate and will his team to victory?

What are you trying to say about Lebron James as a basketball player and why?



He will never be remembered as the best.

4 rings in 18 attempts (Will soon be 4 rings in 20 attempts) is an automatic disqualifier compared to Jordan’s 6 rings during his 12 full years in Chicago.

Combine that with the fact LeBron had to leave his team 3 separate times to chase rings and he still couldn’t seriously threaten Jordan’s number.

Or you can go head to head with MVP’s, defensive players of the year, first team all defense, scoring titles, all star game MVPs, slam dunk contest champions, etc. Jordan wins every category.
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 1:34 pm
Posted by LSUTigKyl
Nashville
Member since May 2009
1808 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 1:51 pm to
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4 rings in 18 attempts (Will soon be 4 rings in 20 attempts) is an automatic disqualifier compared to Jordan’s 6 rings during his 12 full years in Chicago.


I love MJ as much as anyone but unfortunately if you fail to even make the Finals of your sport 8 out of the 14 years that you play. That’s tough. More often than not he was not able to advance to the end. Pretty big fail for the supposed GOAT. It’s nice that he won when he was there but it’s clear he came up well short more than he ever succeeded.

And I can’t imagine how those title runs would have ended if Scottie Pippen had season ending injuries 2-3 times during the playoffs. But that’s just hypothetical.
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
6509 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 1:59 pm to
Stidham.....shocker, another Lebron thread by you.

Do you have a life outside of lebron all up in your head EVERY DAY?
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 2:01 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 2:20 pm to
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Sooooo....What are you trying to say about Lebron James? Not as good as he used to be?


Clearly you're trolling so I'll spell it out for you once and for all: LeBron, at this stage of his career, is no longer a top 5 player in the league, he's more top 20 on the outer edge. He's not as explosive on a consistent basis as he once was, his FT numbers are in full plummet, his clutch numbers completely suck compared to his prime, he barely plays any defense at all except when he does his patented chasedown blocks, still a tremendous passer, he basically performs an overseer role typical of veterans in this stage of their careers. All that's well and good and we should act like that's the reality because it is, I'm fine with that. What I don't tolerate is he constantly hypes himself up on social media and discusses activating "playoff mode" then underperforms, chokes, fails epically in the clutch, or simply doesn't deliver commensurate to the expectations HE AND HIS STANS set for himself. I'd have more respect for him if he didn't say anything or was more honest but he doesn't do that so that's all on his head.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 2:23 pm to
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I love MJ as much as anyone but unfortunately if you fail to even make the Finals of your sport 8 out of the 14 years that you play.


I'd rather have 6 rings in 12 full seasons in Chicago than 4 rings in 18 attempts (most of which spent in the weakest conference in the league BY FAR) any day of the week, did I mention he led the Bulls to TWO threepeats?

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And I can’t imagine how those title runs would have ended if Scottie Pippen had season ending injuries 2-3 times during the playoffs. But that’s just hypothetical.


Scottie was basically useless in Game 6 of the 98 Finals, Rodman did nothing, Harper and Kukoc were useless then too and MJ won that game LITERALLY BY HIMSELF so I don't want to read that horseshoe, stop.

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Pretty big fail for the supposed GOAT.


MJ had no weaknesses in his game, your boy has a bunch, this is funny
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 2:25 pm
Posted by LSUTigKyl
Nashville
Member since May 2009
1808 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 5:10 pm to
Is Steph Curry a Top 5 player in this league? He couldn’t even get his team into the playoffs.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 5:13 pm to
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MJ had no weaknesses in his game, your boy has a bunch, this is funny


So why did he only win 6 rings?
Why did he never win until he got pippen on team?
Why did he have 3 first round exits?
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 5:33 pm to
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So why did he only win 6 rings?
Why did he never win until he got pippen on team?
Why did he have 3 first round exits?


Why does LeBron only have 4 in all the seasons he played? Why does Kobe only have 5? Are you fricking kidding me with this bullshite?
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6938 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 6:09 pm to
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I love MJ as much as anyone but unfortunately if you fail to even make the Finals of your sport 8 out of the 14 years that you play. That’s tough. More often than not he was not able to advance to the end. Pretty big fail for the supposed GOAT. It’s nice that he won when he was there but it’s clear he came up well short more than he ever succeeded.

And I can’t imagine how those title runs would have ended if Scottie Pippen had season ending injuries 2-3 times during the playoffs. But that’s just hypothetical.



He played 12 full seasons in Chicago and made it six times. A little ridiculous to count the Wizards years when he was in his early 40s.

LeBron’s made the finals so often because the East was a turnstile aside from the Celtics from 2008-2012.

Put the Cavs in the West and how many of those years would he have gotten past the Spurs or Warriors? Maybe once or twice?
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 6:10 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25522 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 8:45 pm to
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Put the Cavs in the West and how many of those years would he have gotten past the Spurs or Warriors? Maybe once or twice?


Agreed. There was no letdown in the West. Between the Lakers, Spurs, Mavs, Thunder, Warriors, Rockets...James would have had early exits often.

He played in an historically weak East. It’s not his fault, but claiming that run with that Cavs as something spectacular is false.
Posted by rebel cat
Member since Mar 2020
1565 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 8:52 pm to
Remember, he goes by "King James"
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 9:22 pm to
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He played in an historically weak East. It’s not his fault, but claiming that run with that Cavs as something spectacular is false.


FACTS bc let’s remember the Eastern Conference in the 80s and 90s was the BEastern Conference so SO stacked
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 9:24 pm
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 9:28 pm to
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Why does LeBron only have 4 in all the seasons he played? Why does Kobe only have 5? Are you fricking kidding me with this bullshite?



Why does bill russel have 11
Posted by Paco_taco
Dallas, Tx
Member since Apr 2012
1361 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 9:49 pm to
Per Twitter: @WindhorstESPN: @KingJames determined to bring attention to and assist underprivileged players by purposely losing in playoffs. Moves attention to Space Jam 2.

Update: Anthony Davis Mon-Star character out 2-3 weeks with hangnail. LeBron James withdraws from film.

This is pure sarcasm/satire for those of you who need things spelled out.
Posted by LSUTigKyl
Nashville
Member since May 2009
1808 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 9:52 pm to
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Clearly you're trolling so I'll spell it out for you once and for all: LeBron, at this stage of his career, is no longer a top 5 player in the league, he's more top 20 on the outer edge.


So far your main point to back this up is comparing him to Michael Jordan.
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 9:54 pm
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6938 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:11 pm to
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Agreed. There was no letdown in the West. Between the Lakers, Spurs, Mavs, Thunder, Warriors, Rockets...James would have had early exits often.

He played in an historically weak East. It’s not his fault, but claiming that run with that Cavs as something spectacular is false.


I can’t recall a competitive playoff series that he went through from 2013-2017 in the East.

Maybe the bulls the year Kevin Love got hurt?
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6938 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:18 pm to
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FACTS bc let’s remember the Eastern Conference in the 80s and 90s was the BEastern Conference so SO stacked


The Pistons, Knicks, Magic, and Pacers of the 90s are much better than what LeBron went through in most of his Eastern runs.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:20 pm to
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Why does bill russel have 11


What’s your point? There’s no disputing the greatness of Russell, next to Jordan he’s among the greatest winners and competitors in the history of the sport, doesn’t have the offensive statistical dominance of Jordan, Jordan was complete package but Russell was a rare breed in his own right
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:46 pm to
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What’s your point?


Whats your point? You was the one comparing lebron to mj.... that says enough in itself
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:51 pm to
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Whats your point? You was the one comparing lebron to mj.... that says enough in itself


When did I do this? Lol
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