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re: I'm an NFL owner. You be the player.

Posted on 3/11/11 at 10:57 pm to
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 10:57 pm to
It's always funny when people whine about spoiled greedy athletes as a means of defending league owners.
Posted by GamecockAlum
SC
Member since Dec 2010
7705 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 10:57 pm to
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How many 3 or 4? Kurt Warner's are extreme exceptions.



Joe Montana, Raymond Berry, Dan Fouts, Bob Hayes, and Chrlie Joiner are just a few examples of players who arrived in the league with little fanfare and had to wait for their chance to prove themselves. They are all in the Hall of Fame.



Hell in the league now you have guys like Tony Romo, Matt Schaub, Kyle Orton, Arian Foster, Michael Turner, BenJarvus Green Ellis, LaGarette Blount, Danny Woodhead, Mike Tolbert, and Chris Ivory who had to wait to unusual/unfortunate circumstances to be given the chance to prove themselves and that's just at two positions.


There are stars and even just good players just waiting for a chance to prove themself all over the league. To say that the league wouldn't be able to move on because Peyton Manning and Drew Brees won't be playing is just asinine. The league was around before them and will be around long after they retire.
Posted by mes1100
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2007
3349 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 10:58 pm to
fair is fair arse. noone is entitled to shite.
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 10:58 pm to
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i'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're either part of a union, or to young to know what they mean.




*sigh

Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75886 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 10:58 pm to
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i'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're either part of a union

Posted by GamecockAlum
SC
Member since Dec 2010
7705 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 10:59 pm to
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So next year if the Pats are 2-8 missing all of their 'stars' and watching some QB (who's probably worse than Brady Quinn), how do you think that'll go down?


So the league will suffer if the Patriots suck? Hell I'd prefer that they did suck. Tired of seeing their cheating asses in the playoffs. Get some new blood in the league. Let someone else win some games and make the playoffs.
Posted by mes1100
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2007
3349 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:00 pm to
projectP. is tht a play on te rapper project pat? if not, you're worthless here
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:01 pm to
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It's always funny when people whine about spoiled greedy athletes as a means of defending league owners.




it's unreal.

I will be one of the first to call out players when they're being jackasses and overstepping their bounds.

But at the same time I realize the value of the athletes and how quickly owners will try to take what they can.

I just don't really understand how someone can take the owners' side in this one
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12073 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:01 pm to
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don't be an uppity idiot and play the stereotype game. 90% of the players are good normal people


You are wrong. A lot of them are good, normal people but the number is a lot lower than 90%. Hell what was the percentage of good, normal baseball players that were juicing behind everybody's back?

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what the hell does this mean? Money is still money here. Fairness is what's in question.


It means you're still going to make far more money in the NFL than you would in any other field using your talents of being strong and fast. The owners set up the league, they pay the players' pension, they set up all the leases, they take on all the financial risk should people stop watching their product, why would they have to split their profits equally with their employees? Can you name any other companies in the country where the employees sitting behind desks make the same amount (collectively) as the owners of the company?
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:02 pm to
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So the league will suffer if the Patriots suck? Hell I'd prefer that they did suck. Tired of seeing their cheating asses in the playoffs. Get some new blood in the league. Let someone else win some games and make the playoff


way to stay focused on the big picture you dolt.

Whether or not you hate the Patriots, you'll watch them to either hope they win or lose. You do that because they have great players.

I was using the Pats as an 'example'. Stay with us here MSBtard.
Posted by mes1100
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2007
3349 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:02 pm to
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I just don't really understand how someone can take the owners' side in this one


probably cause they own the shite
This post was edited on 3/11/11 at 11:04 pm
Posted by unWAVEring FAN
Indianapolis, Indiana.
Member since Feb 2004
1210 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:05 pm to
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quote:
I just don't really understand how someone can take the owners' side in this one


probably cause they own the shite


So your basis for supporting the owners is "cause they own the shite"?
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:06 pm to
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Hell what was the percentage of good, normal baseball players that were juicing behind everybody's back?


behind who's back? And you missed the fundamental point that these people aren't different from everyone else. They've just been put in unusual circumstances and they adjust.

Everyone seems to forget that these people are normal, but get put into a much different life. So if you take 100 insurance salesmen in a work environment and tell them that steroids will make them tens of millions of dollars, the same percentage of them would do it as we had in baseball.

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Can you name any other companies in the country where the employees sitting behind desks make the same amount (collectively) as the owners of the company?


yeah cause that's the same situation. thousands upon thousands of college graduates leaving school every year qualified to do these jobs. But there is ONE Julio Jones this year. One.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75886 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:06 pm to
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probably cause they own the shite


but what you aren't getting is that they don't own shite without the players putting out a product that people want to watch.
Posted by GamecockAlum
SC
Member since Dec 2010
7705 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:06 pm to
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No shite but if you told him to run with a football they'd say that guy is faster than 99.9% of everyone else in the world. They know who #28 for the Titans is and if another guy is wearing #28 and running a 4.7 they would definitely notice.


You do realize that the difference between a 3.7 and a 4.2 is hardy noticeable on the field of play is hardly, if ever noticeable right? Chris Johnson is great in part because of his speed, not exclusively because of it. Jerry Rice ran a 4.7 btw and he is in the Hall of Fame. Justin Miller ran in the 4.3s at the combine, do you even know who he is now?

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Does any high school get 65,000+?


Your point? Does any pro team get over 100,000 consistently for home games?

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People don't want crappy football.


So just because it's not the guys you like means it will be crappy? I hope you don't watch any high school football and ignore all but a few college football games.
Posted by mes1100
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2007
3349 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:06 pm to
its a pretty broad stance, but to bite. yes. whats wrong with that?
Posted by mes1100
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2007
3349 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:07 pm to
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but what you aren't getting is that they don't own shite without the players putting out a product that people want to watch.



false. lulz
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75886 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:08 pm to
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false. lulz


you are dense
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24474 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:08 pm to
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You do realize that the difference between a 3.7 and a 4.2 is hardy noticeable on the field of play is hardly, if ever noticeable right?


HAHAHA, so you don't think people can tell the difference between Chris Johnson running and Justin Vincent at top speed? Give it a rest.
Posted by GamecockAlum
SC
Member since Dec 2010
7705 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:08 pm to
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way to stay focused on the big picture you dolt.

Whether or not you hate the Patriots, you'll watch them to either hope they win or lose. You do that because they have great players.

I was using the Pats as an 'example'. Stay with us here MSBtard.




1. You mad.

2. I'm going to watch the NFL regardless. I don't have a team. All I care about is watching the game. Like I said, the names on the back of the jerseys don't mean a damn thing to me. Same goes with my alma mater. They come and they go, but my love for my school and my team will stay the same regardless of the players.
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