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re: If you believe the NBA was wrong, what would have been a better decision?
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:11 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:11 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Well said on all accounts.
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:11 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Finally a private conversation being the impetus for this shite storm bothers me.
Sure, but once it is made public, it is over. No one can go back and ignore it. Silver and the NBA didn't make the comments public, they simply played with the hand they were dealt.
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gain, due to the asinine lynch mob mentality it would have taken a man with more balls than brains to take a stand in silver's position and do less than what he did. End of day, silver took the easy way out
Huh? What is this ballsy decision that would have avoided the "easy way out"?
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:11 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
He has made a strong statement no doubt. I do not see how he can be consistent with such a strong penalty. I would bet that racist remarks and comments are made every day in the NBA. Silver has painted himself in a corner with such a harsh and swift action.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:13 pm to Dr. Shultz
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I feel like what they are doing is somewhat unconstitutional if you ask me.
I don't see that. The NBA made its decision because Sterling was detrimental to their business.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:14 pm to bigcatfish
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Silver has painted himself in a corner with such a harsh and swift action.
And how many well paid NBA lawyers do you think Silver consulted with before announcing the action he took today?
My guess, more than one.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:15 pm to bigcatfish
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Silver has painted himself in a corner with such a harsh and swift action.
Perhaps. You're probably right, but what would have been better?
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:16 pm to slackster
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I guess, although they won't be his for long. I fully believe the owners will vote him out, and I'm behind that decision 100%. His inclusion in the league hurts their bottom line, and as such, he will be gone.
I still don't get how he hurts their bottom line, people aren't going to stop going to games, buy stuff because some old codger is racist.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:17 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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End of day, silver took the easy way out, because the angry mob wanted blood and an angry mob is dangerous.
At the end of the day, Silver made the decision that was most beneficial for the owners and league he represents. Nothing more, nothing less.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:19 pm to slackster
It would have taken balls to say we are going to take our time and have a discussion about this. All of it. Including potential double standards, the private nature of the comments, the baiting by th girl, sterns past actions, etc. There is plenty to discuss and look at here. In context of the conversation and in a broader context.
I could go on, but if you do not think the angry mob caused the quick decision and you could not see the obvious emotion and use of words by silver to try and placate the angry mob, I sure can.
It would have taken a big ole set of balls to stand up to and stare down the mob. I like to think I have a big pair, but I'm not sure I would not have taken the easy way out like silver as well. Dunno.
I could go on, but if you do not think the angry mob caused the quick decision and you could not see the obvious emotion and use of words by silver to try and placate the angry mob, I sure can.
It would have taken a big ole set of balls to stand up to and stare down the mob. I like to think I have a big pair, but I'm not sure I would not have taken the easy way out like silver as well. Dunno.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:19 pm to reb13
Look, they come out and say its because he is a racist , but if they said it is a financial issue then they would have a leg to stand on when a black guy says something racially tinged but nobody cares
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:20 pm to reb13
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I still don't get how he hurts their bottom line, people aren't going to stop going to games, buy stuff because some old codger is racist.
He has been racist for a long time, but this story completely blew up. My mother, grandmother, and SO do not watch basketball one iota, but they knew about this story. Perhaps it goes back to the lynch mob mentality that Tiger N Miami brought up, but sponsors were already pulling away from the Clippers, and would have began leaving the NBA altogether had Silver made a different decision.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:21 pm to slackster
I agree. It was a business decision at the end of the day. And silver is the commissioner and his responsibility is to the league.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:23 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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It would have taken balls to say we are going to take our time and have a discussion about this. All of it. Including potential double standards, the private nature of the comments, the baiting by th girl, sterns past actions, etc. There is plenty to discuss and look at here. In context of the conversation and in a broader context.
I could go on, but if you do not think the angry mob caused the quick decision and you could not see the obvious emotion and use of words by silver to try and placate the angry mob, I sure can.
It would have taken a big ole set of balls to stand up to and stare down the mob. I like to think I have a big pair, but I'm not sure I would not have taken the easy way out like silver as well. Dunno.
I can agree with this, but I don't believe Silver had the luxury of waiting. As you've already said, the mob was growing and a decision was needed quickly. This is basically the premise of the OP - under the circumstances, was there a better decision that could have been made?
We can discuss the circumstances for days, but that doesn't change them.
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:25 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Also, due to sterlings past actions and real discrimination that actually did harm, the result may have been the same. But it wasn't when it mattered and I don't like that the impetus to do something was something that didn't matter (his comments to the whore).
I just feel like the mob bullied it's way to get what the mob wanted and quickly. Not really commenting on whether it was deserved or not, just the way it went down.
I just feel like the mob bullied it's way to get what the mob wanted and quickly. Not really commenting on whether it was deserved or not, just the way it went down.
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:25 pm to slackster
Should have said he's banned from any NBA arena for 20 years.
He can still be in charge and whatever he does in regards to his own team though.
Players that do not feel comfortable with playing for the clippers may enter the 2014 draft and be selected by whatever team that picks them. When they are picked, they are able to negotiate with ONLY that team as if they were a UFA that year. If they are not selected, they will be an UDFA.
He can still be in charge and whatever he does in regards to his own team though.
Players that do not feel comfortable with playing for the clippers may enter the 2014 draft and be selected by whatever team that picks them. When they are picked, they are able to negotiate with ONLY that team as if they were a UFA that year. If they are not selected, they will be an UDFA.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:26 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
We've banned an owner for a private conversation.
We let players do things that are against the law and serve minor suspensions.
Man breaks law, suspended. Man tells girlfriend not to advertise she likes black man, banned for life, forced to sell his property.
Anyone who didn't know he was a bigot wasn't paying attention. Fine him, ban him from other arenas. His players get payed to play, let's not pretend they play for him.
We let players do things that are against the law and serve minor suspensions.
Man breaks law, suspended. Man tells girlfriend not to advertise she likes black man, banned for life, forced to sell his property.
Anyone who didn't know he was a bigot wasn't paying attention. Fine him, ban him from other arenas. His players get payed to play, let's not pretend they play for him.
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:27 pm to slackster
No, silver probably did what he had to do. Again, how it came about and went down doesn't make me happy. I hate bullying and I hate mob mentality and this situation has that feel to it for me.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:27 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Oh, without a doubt, this shite falls squarely on Stern.
On the surface, those comments are mostly insignificant, but Sterling's history was what cost him. Rightfully so IMO.
On the surface, those comments are mostly insignificant, but Sterling's history was what cost him. Rightfully so IMO.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:27 pm to slackster
I read an article earlier this evening, that said players where prepared to boycott tonights games had not Silver taken the action he did.
Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:30 pm to TexasTiger1185
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We've banned an owner for a private conversation.
We let players do things that are against the law and serve minor suspensions.
Man breaks law, suspended. Man tells girlfriend not to advertise she likes black man, banned for life, forced to sell his property.
I get this, but this particular situation was cutting right to the heart of the NBA today - profits. They tied the decision up with a nice little bow regarding racism, but lets not ignore the real problem - Sterling was about to be very bad for the bottom line. Plain and simple.
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