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re: How successful would Bill Belichick be at a big time CFB program?
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:14 pm to LProp1
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:14 pm to LProp1
Bill Walsh when he retired was the greatest coach ever.
His first year at Stanford, the Cardinal went 10-3.
Then he had to bring in his own recruits...
They went 4-7 and 3-7-1 over the next two years with Walsh recruits.
There's no way in hell Belichick is having sleep-overs and tweeting prospects and calling them non-stop...and holding camps and doing in-home visits to the degree the best coaches do to get the players.
You can't just be..."look at my Super Bowl rings bitch!" Like Charlie Weis tried to be.
Oh, he was going to be so much smarter than everyone else...because of the Belichick tree.
College football isn't about schematic advantages or being smarter. It's emotion, young kids and recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. It's not game plans and micro-managing like the NFL where everybody pretty much as similar talent.
Bill Walsh found that out the hard way.
His first year at Stanford, the Cardinal went 10-3.
Then he had to bring in his own recruits...
They went 4-7 and 3-7-1 over the next two years with Walsh recruits.
There's no way in hell Belichick is having sleep-overs and tweeting prospects and calling them non-stop...and holding camps and doing in-home visits to the degree the best coaches do to get the players.
You can't just be..."look at my Super Bowl rings bitch!" Like Charlie Weis tried to be.
Oh, he was going to be so much smarter than everyone else...because of the Belichick tree.
College football isn't about schematic advantages or being smarter. It's emotion, young kids and recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. It's not game plans and micro-managing like the NFL where everybody pretty much as similar talent.
Bill Walsh found that out the hard way.
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:29 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Remember Belichick's genius o coordinator, he failed with that arrogant Parcells NE attitude...at ND and Kansas.
His coordinators have also failed several times as NFL head coaches.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:33 pm to LProp1
I couldn't imagine him being a good recruiter.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:21 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Bill Walsh was actually somewhat likeable.
But he failed in college because it was all about the gameplan. Even Montana said Walsh was pissed at him for throwing it to Clarke...because the play-sheet said to throw it away. You can see Walsh on the video...after the Catch...and he looks disgusted.
That's NFL Belichick misanthrope which has no place in college. Like Walsh, Belichick would be a fricking disaster. Curmudgeons who can't relate to kids....Good going Bill.
Just like Charlie Weiss was going to outscheme everyone schematic advantage.
Hey dipshite, stop scheming and try recruiting.
I think Bill Parcells would have been the worst college football coach in history...if Belichick didn't exist.
People who think Bill would make a great college coach obviously don't appreciate the differences in the two sports. Football isn't just football.
There is college football and then there is that other thing.
But he failed in college because it was all about the gameplan. Even Montana said Walsh was pissed at him for throwing it to Clarke...because the play-sheet said to throw it away. You can see Walsh on the video...after the Catch...and he looks disgusted.
That's NFL Belichick misanthrope which has no place in college. Like Walsh, Belichick would be a fricking disaster. Curmudgeons who can't relate to kids....Good going Bill.
Just like Charlie Weiss was going to outscheme everyone schematic advantage.
Hey dipshite, stop scheming and try recruiting.
I think Bill Parcells would have been the worst college football coach in history...if Belichick didn't exist.
People who think Bill would make a great college coach obviously don't appreciate the differences in the two sports. Football isn't just football.
There is college football and then there is that other thing.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:34 pm to LProp1
Not everybody can recruit so he might not be all that good in the college game.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:51 pm to LProp1
I dunno, Saban's even more of a tightass and he can recruit. I don't think BB would have issues there.
He gets grown men to buy in. That's much tougher than impressionable 17-18 year olds.
*nuance
He gets grown men to buy in. That's much tougher than impressionable 17-18 year olds.
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Both cerebral coaches wrapped too much into the nuisance of the game
*nuance
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:51 pm to kmcmah1
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imagine Popovich dealing with the drama in college basketball recruiting.
He'd go full Serbian on some poor kid inside of 24 hours
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:13 pm to kmcmah1
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For shits and giggles, imagine Popovich dealing with the drama in college basketball recruiting.
I bet Pop's could do it- he'd probably read sociology book and get inside the minds today's youth.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:22 pm to LProp1
he would eat our local media alive
Posted on 10/6/16 at 12:22 am to Andy Bernard
I think some of y'all are ignoring that, arguably, the greatest college football coach to have ever stepped on a field is a Belichick disciple and has many of the same traits that Belichick has.
I think Belichick would adjust as needed and would dominate on the level of Saban or Meyer. A key trait that Belichick has that those who've tried to copy him don't (and what Saban effectively has at Alabama) is that he is the General Manager as well; that guy would be a hell-on-wheels recruiter in the same style that Saban is. A "this is X School football; I will get you to the NFL and you will play for the best program in the country; take it or leave it" type of approach.
I witnessed the Weis fiasco first-hand. What Weis tried to do at ND was kind of like when other airlines try to copy what Southwest does. If you try to take bits and pieces of the magic formula, it fails spectacularly. You need the entire organizational strategy, from the bottom-up, and complete buy-in from everyone. I have no doubt Belichick could do that.
I think the biggest difference between Walsh and Belichick with regards to the college game was that Walsh's genius was in his system, and Belichick's genius is in his organizational approach. Belichick's methods translate to the college game; Walsh's really don't.
I think Belichick would adjust as needed and would dominate on the level of Saban or Meyer. A key trait that Belichick has that those who've tried to copy him don't (and what Saban effectively has at Alabama) is that he is the General Manager as well; that guy would be a hell-on-wheels recruiter in the same style that Saban is. A "this is X School football; I will get you to the NFL and you will play for the best program in the country; take it or leave it" type of approach.
I witnessed the Weis fiasco first-hand. What Weis tried to do at ND was kind of like when other airlines try to copy what Southwest does. If you try to take bits and pieces of the magic formula, it fails spectacularly. You need the entire organizational strategy, from the bottom-up, and complete buy-in from everyone. I have no doubt Belichick could do that.
I think the biggest difference between Walsh and Belichick with regards to the college game was that Walsh's genius was in his system, and Belichick's genius is in his organizational approach. Belichick's methods translate to the college game; Walsh's really don't.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 3:23 am to RLDSC FAN
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His system might be too much for college kid
It works great for Nick Saban
Got him what 5 NCs.
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